Was Satan created in God’s image or is she God?

Agreed since Ad Hominem seems your main form of argument and though you claim to understand Jung you have said little about Jung that shows this understanding.

I think it is reality that you can not deal with. All I have done was asked simple questions to which you flew off into an ad-hom rant which is a form of avoidance and denial.

You have not given any Jungian theory that contradicts what I have said and I highly doubt you have seen the inside of a University as a student never mind attend a university level psychology class or any other university level class.

Since when is the holy spirit not a spirit guide ? You yourself claimed that you took guidance from the holy spirit = a spirit that guides you = a spirit guide.

 

i have indeed explained Jungian theory on the collective unconsciousness, again your showing signs of a complete lack of comprehensive ability…or trolling ...

The Holy Spirit may guide you , but that does inflect the idea of it being a single entity.which "a" spirit guide is…an entity..

the Holy Spirit, and the Dharma Kaya body of a Buddha is not an entity. i asked you to google the latter…you did not and still insist the Holy Spirit is a single entity of the nature of a spirit guide..

spirit guide
wikipedia refers to it as
Spirit guide
"Spirit guide" is a term used by the Western tradition of Spiritualist Churches, mediums, and psychics to describe an entity that remains a disincarnate spirit in order to act as a guide or protector to a living incarnated human being


you went to uni?

 

Why do people blame themselves when they do something wrong but credit spirits or a god when they do something right.?

I don't know who or what created humans but I'm pretty sure humans didn't. But whatever did make us didn't make us perfect...THAT IS NOT OUR FAULT...so if we conquer life's adverisites WE should take the credit...WE did it...nothing else did it.

BTW, I do have to congratulate you on quitting....I'm getting there....

 

How does the definition you provided for a spirit guide differ from your definition of the "holy spirit" ?

 

Can you please stop referring to me in your comments, it is really bad manners to do so unless you are replying directly to me.

 

i hear ya…it was just weird how it played out…at the time i was an atheist and only started to think there might be a God…about 12 years later.

 

for the firth time…ok i'll do it for you…one last time…a spirit guide is an entity …can you understand that…an individual who is residing in some realm that is not our realm but is able to guide a human being…

it never happened to me so i cannot say if it is reality …

the holy spirit is influence…think of it this way…you are happy as hell nothing can bun you out and you walk into a room filled with bummed out people….your charisma is so strong it just lightens up the whole place…

can you touch that which lightened up the whole place…you influenced people,,,but with what….if there were ants crawling around the room that which caused humans to cheer up did nothing for the ants …why…

so this God that i described to you..this way of me looking at what God is…can influence us…it's us..so it's us influencing us…how did i keep bumping into people with oxygen masks…what influenced this and why….

if you lived with me as my wife did and witnessed this…to this day she finds it odd too…coincidence…can it be proven…

the Holy Spirit is like the thing that influenced the bummed out people only on a much grander scale…

now seriously…if you cannot grasp anything at all from that ..it's ok…but others will and do….

at one time i would mock the crap out of this…it was fun to mock…i had sex with a nun when i was in high school…i thought it was cool…why?

 

I am glad to hear that your belief "the holy spirit" brightens up your mood. I think your conception of the holy spirit differs than Pentecostals for sure.

I know that some spirit guides are thought to people in another realm but there are other spirits as well ... angels, demons and so on.

I do not claim that the spirits from dead people and the other spirits such as angels or demons are the same.

You claim that the spirit that influences you is directly from God which brings us to my original question.

Do you claim an identity for this God or is it a God with no identity. (I am not sure how to best state the God with no name but this is closest to my conception of God)

I believe in God but do not put a human label on God. I can not tell you what God is but I can tell you what God is not. What God is not is most of what man has made up about God (IMO)

 

Sherlock Holmes would think that if you saw up to 8 people walking around breathing with oxygen canisters for months on end chances are you were spending a lot of time in a hospital.

 

If spirits don't produce an official ID how will you know who they represent?

Zechariah 6:5 (NLT) =

"The angel replied, “These are the four spirits of heaven who stand before the Lord of all the earth. They are going out to do his work."​

 

i was going to ignore you until i read this..thats about sums up my opinion on god as well..

I think in terms not a single entity that is like super powerful Marvel hero of hero's…but everything that is and will be and was…and is developing…the entire universe is like evolving…no end to the possibilities…human beings will one time be something that isn't even in produced during a big bang…something totally different…it's like we have a clue as to what i's all about through what we know about evolution…


you know this whole God thing isn;t really that important…it;s not like you can is IT for something…It knows your needs and they are met…


each time something new popped up …like from reptiles all of a sudden dinosaurs…and like wow…or anphimbians and voila reptiles happen…there are missing links but a whole new thing happened like out of the blue…mammals appear then man…like wow before man who's of thought eh…

meh i think one can dwell on the did thing so much and it soean't matter…it's like focusing on your toenails…and being all happy they exist.

 

just now this thing fluttered into my room and a bright light happened and it said that it was going to destroy the people who don't groom themselves…i took your advice and asked for an Id and it looked around and fled…i think i heard it muttering "Damn immigration people ruin everything"

 

Check those IDs!

 

Perhaps I am overly optimistic... but I think that aliens might just play a significant role in helping us to come into that predicted age when lions eat straw like an ox????!!!!


http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=338698

Will UFO's assist in bringing peace to the world?????



I personally am now wide open to this possibility...... but I sure wasn't ready for the idea until I read this part of the NDE account of Christian Andreason:

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

 

Nothing like another testimony from the insane.

Regards
DL

 

Your style is brash and confrontational. I don't take issue there. What I do take issue with is the outright bullying and threatening tone. This type of remark doesn't belong here, nor anywhere.

 

Get a handle on your insanity and I will not have to try to get you to fly right.

Regards
DL

 

Is "SHE" God? Oh! that's cute

 

Did you look up how Michel Angelo was told to depict Satan for the Vatican?

If that is not a female then please explain the female breasts.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=mich...na%2F1genesis%2F4sin%2F04_3ce4e.html;1135;770

Regards
DL

 

In Job a bunch of the Sons of God are paying God a visit. Must be some kind of celebration (perhaps God's birthday!?)

Satan is among these divine Sons and during a convo with his Father, Satan, as sons often do, chides God. "The Father" as dads sometimes do is boasting about his servant Job how faithful he is and so on.

Satan points out the obvious an says "well yeah dad, of course he is, you gave him everything" "try taking that all away and he will renounce you".

God decides to take his Son up on the bet and prove something to his Son. Together they then kill Job's family and do all kinds of nasty things to Job to see what happens.

How Job responds is not important. What is interesting about this story is agreeable relationship between The Father an his Son Satan.

Satan is presumably sent by God to test Jesus some 1400-2000 years later. In Job Satan does not act outside of what God allows.

Humans have defamed poor Satan and blamed him for the evils of humans. I'm sure he laughs knowing that the real person they are blaming is his Father as he is only doing the will of the Father when it come to humans.

 

To one who believes that that God is real, you are correct.

God even tells Christians to not put any other God before him and there they are, always putting Satan be fore him for evil that God clearly says he creates.

Christians are quite good at self-delusion and not understanding there own theology.

Regards
DL

 

I have noticed

 

That's a very good question. At no point hav I ever read of Satan being created in the first place. Angel's seem to have existed, like the one that guarded the Garden after Adam and Eve were kicked out, and it makes me wonder what, exactly, was created. God creates all things, but things- like Angel's and, presumably, heaven- existed before "all things" so I suppose there is an entire history before material creation that we do not know about. And we have no direct knowledge of this existence from God, himself, just addendums from various religious philosophers and figures of import as time went on.

It's fair to say that in that ancient time, Satan was something entirely different. In the ancient world, God's, spirits, and such were much more than the one-dimensional caricatures we have made them today- their nature and meaning very poetic and vast, in a sense- and so when you think on this, you'd also have to note that much of the depth and vitality- something akin to the Hindu epics- is missing from religion. Western Europeans tend to have this blandness about them, lol.

In fact, all modern religions have become very...bland...by comparison.

 

Satan could be the yin whereas God is the yang, two faces of the same coin, that could be the real message behind. I couldn't explain it myself any other way because we have the proof that pure evil and pure good simply do not exist, they are merged and continously change... that makes more sense.

 

Which may be why they are dying.

You may have noted that the Eastern religions push meditation and enlightenment for self improvement and spiritual growth while Christianity and Islam just push blind obedience and faith without facts.

I like being a Gnostic Christianity because it is basically a bridge between the two and does not rely on woo for it's theology. It is also one of the few of the Abrahamic cults that is not misogynous and homophobic.

Please look into it if you have a spiritual itch to scratch. If not, no problem.

Regards
DL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D

The thinking shown below is the Gnostic Christian’s goal as taught by Jesus but know that any belief can be internalized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

This method and mind set is how you become I am and brethren to Jesus, in the esoteric sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y

When you can name your God, I am, and mean yourself, you will begin to know the only God you will ever find. Becoming a God is to become more fully human.