The "Reagan Revolution" was a joke

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  1. PCFPhilly

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    The "Reagan Revolution" was a complete joke. A Republican got elected president twice and they call that a "revolution"?

    The House remained under Democratic control. The Senate flipped Republican but flipped right back a few years later.

    The Republican Party and America's political discourse as a whole had already been moving steadily to the right since the mid 70s.

    Reagan increased the debt, raised taxes multiple times, and gave immunity to undocumented immigrants.

    All the Reagan Revolution really achieved was institutionalizing angry fundies as the backbone of the GOP, and that's created major problems for the Republicans in the last 3 or 4 election cycles; problems that will only get worse.

    Time to admit that Reagan's "revolution" was a farce. It's a rallying cry to get rightwing activists excited at rallies. In reality, it was a politician winning a couple elections. It had no impact worthy of the term "revolution".
     
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    Then you look up that by cutting taxes reagan has the greatest peacetime economic expansion in last 170 years for 8 years!!!
    And the 80s freedom led to the internet being invented!!
    alf aka bill clinton evenruined that productive boon !! before he got busy mandating loans that with fed and fanny led to 2008! thanks billy!!

    dems you arent republicans!

    dems ruin economy and create massive debt and bailout crony banks!!

    obama by far worst president of all time debt from 8T in 2008 to 17T NOW!!! WOOAAAAOO!!!!!! and economy SUKKKzz massive unemplyemnt and massive restriction on research anmd production
     
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    Old news is old. Ron Paul ran for President in '88 specifically because he had become so disillusioned with the Reagan/Bush administration.
     
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    ron paul is agaisnt fed and obama bigtime
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You left off the part where he ended the cold war, encouraged business which recovered the economy which led to his second term landslide victory. Im guessing you were too young to remember that or else you would have cited which democrat before Reagan was elected to a second term in that era.
    Remember a few years ago lefties making fun of reagan for his star wars programs? Turns out they are now mounting those lasers on warships which will change the face of warfare. Unlimited firing capabilities and well.......nevermind it wont matter to leftists who let their college professor tell them what to think and say.
     
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    It reversed the crazy leftist economic policies of the 70s and lead to republican wins in state legislatures in the south tht have completely transformed this region all for the better.
     
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    You left off the part where government spending exploded, the federal government became far larger, the federal debt rose to then unprecedented levels and he saved Social Security by taxing it's proceeds and gave millions of illegals amnesty. And the crown jewel of Reagan's accomplishments, NAFTA.

    Reagan didn't end the Cold War since the Cold War was a farce perpetuated by the CIA.

    Reagan, like all Republicans since was a fraud and America has been going downhill since then.
     
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    party line miseducated dem you are

    wow

    reagan rebuilt shattered economy by lowering taxes while dem congress stubbornly wouldnt lower spending to make it a slam dunk

    the read vodoo economics is the fed printing money

    end the fed
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The GOP hasn't recovered. The Me Generation thrived under the corporate-friendly policies that have ruined the working class. Soon, it will be just the extreme poor and the extreme rich. Bravo, Reaganites.
     
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    it wasn't about what happened in government, it what happened in the hearts of Americans. the 70s were like one long slide into a terminal funk. the old man gave us back hope for the future.:flagus:
     
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    its actually quite the opposite

    as the crony communist democrats have raised government spending the richer cronies got richer and poor got crushed by cronies not letting them compete and middle class shrunk because poor have so many regulations and taxes on them that the rich cronies just skip

    notice congress senate and pres skip obama care lol

    why be a tax payer when you can be a crony tax spender?

    when we get rida the fed and regulations aka restrictions then economy will boom, until then debt will piel up democrat style!!
     
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    Bad assumption.

    Independent who lived through Reagan.

    Reagan didn't build anything but profits for his cronies.

    Who do you think funded the Reagan expansion?
    End ignorance.
     
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    The Reagan Revolution was a raving success.

    He defeated the Soviet Union. He solved many economic problem,s. He broke the strangle hold of unions on the working class. And of coruse made America proud again.

    Probably his best achievement is doing so well that people still have to talk trash about him decades later. Even republicans stopped bashing clinton when he left office
     
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    Scams are typically built upon someone's hope. Ask Bernie Madoff.

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    For the 1%. The other 99% of Americans got screwed and have been ever since.

    Reagan didn't defeat squat. Gorbachev adapted and played Reagan's arrogance like a piano. American's wages have gone downhill since Reagan and there is a big difference between pride and arrogance.

    Until now. Nobody's talks trash about Reagan except people like yourself who foolishly credit him with things he had nothing to do with while ignoring the fact that he screwed Americans royally and paved the way for scumbags like Dick Cheney to profit from it.
     
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    lol
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYkl...ew-vl&list=PLMNj_r5bccUzol670CnRnAp-a6rpd3Dym
    this vid should help you see the light
    watch it
    crony communists like obama hate reagan method of lowering tax and regulations and allowing the poor to outcompete the rich and disloge many crony commies and all that released energy shows how innovation and freedom can give us great things like the internet, which was a direct result of 80s freedom
    thank ron no al gore

    end the fed immediatly

    nothing worse than crony commies giving themselves 75B a month as janet yellen is

    nothing dumber
     
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    What taxes do the poor pay directly other than sales tax?

    As for sales tax, don't be so quick to blame the Dems:

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    Joke??? Reagan won the cold war against the USSR. Reagan pulled us out of the nation funk created by Carter. He also got rid of Carter's double digit infation, Carter's double digit interest rates, and Carter' double digit unemployment. He laid the ground work for Clinton's "great economy".
     
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    Nope it was 100 % of Americans who benefited from Reagan

    Yes he defeated the USSR which is proven historic fact only small minded revisionists try to spin that fact.

    It is you talking trash about him.

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    lolololol

    News flash.
    Gorbie lost thanx to Reagan read a history book
     
  21. PCFPhilly

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    So according to a lot of you:

    Anything bad that happened in the 80s: Carter's fault
    Anything good that happened in the 80's: Reagan's credit
    Anything bad that happened in the 90's: Clinton's fault.
    Anything good that happened in the 90s: Reagan's credit.


    Partisan hackery, and poorly done partisan hackery at that. This is just the internet guys. Nothing bad is going to happen to you. Stop grasping at straws and let's have a real discussion here.
     
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    Funny how you willfully move back and forth between what Reagan did, and what Congress did, as it suits you. Of course, accuracy suffers, it seems. Or honesty. You pick.

    Reagan increased debt because he was fighting a Cold War with the USSR - which he won - and he was constantly forced to negotiate with Dems in Congress, who allied with 'tax and spend' Republicans, like Bob Dole.

    These people promised $3 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases Reagan would support, so Reagan reluctantly went along with their bills based upon that promise.

    They lied, as you seem to continue to wish to support with your drivel. So when you blame Reagan for increasing debt and taxes, you'd display a kernel of integrity if you'd actually correctly attribute the cause.

    As for illegals: the problem wasn't even a 10th of the level of trouble it is now. Reagan wanted to give immunity, but then stop the illegal immigration problem altogether. Again: be honest in your pathetic revisionism.

    All Reagan did was defeat the USSR and create the longest peace-time economic expansion in our country's history. In fact, the ONLY metric which pathetic liberals can point to is an increase in debt, which was NOT Reagan, but - in fact - spenders in Congress.

    Which is why Reagan wanted Line Item Veto. Of course, had he been Obama, he would merely have arbitrarily cut out lines of law as it suited him. But Reagan wasn't a dictator like Obama, and never imagined such an abuse of power.

    Time to admit that your political agenda is a farce.

    There is a reason Reagan was so popular, and carried 49 States. There is a reason insignificant liberals such are yourself are still attempting to defeat Reagan's Legacy, 30 years later.

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    So, according to you, you have to vastly generalize and put words in people's mouth to prompt yourself to believe in such binary and simplistic views. Got it. :roll:


    Irony.

    A real discussion with someone like you who willfully distorts facts and engages in A or B stupidity is not possible. Begone.
     
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    Pure partisan bull feces. Under Reagan, EVERY QUINTILE improved their incomes, AND unemployment decreased. You MAKE CRAP UP to protect your liberal delusions.

    We get it. You identify far more with Gorbachev than with Reagan. That is why you are merely an enemy at our gate.

    Liberals have no imagination - even though the statement above smacks of pure fantasy. It isn't imagination which prompts such delusion, but desperation.
     
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    You are a perfect example of how good the Democrat messaging is. They have convinced most of the country that the party of the super rich elite is the Republicans when the opposite is true. Unreal how relentless they are on this issue, and how successful.

    Here is reality, most of the super rich elite reside in the democrat party. Some of them have enormous power over our gov't. They champion big gov't with lots of rules, regulations, and taxes that impede on the upward mobility of others. They make more and more while others can't find a job. They pretend to be for the poor by giving them buck, or a food stamp but what there most concerned is protecting their wealth.

    I think a nice way to look at is...
    Democrat - The party or the super rich elite
    Republican - The party of those who want to be super rich elite
     
  25. AdvancedFundamentalist

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    Reality dude. The numbers don't lie.



    How many people are you channeling? History reflects what happened, argue with reality, you seem to like to.


    Self contradicting statement, 10 points.
     

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