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Former Christian here, ask me anything

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by taxrentonly, Feb 23, 2014.

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  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    I'm a Christian, but it seems I'm leaning more toward humanism in many ways.
     
    Johnny-C, Feb 24, 2014
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  2. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    No. Please don't be naive about this. It isn't hypersensitivity.

    We need look no further than who is behind many of the laws which seek to legally justify DISCRIMINATING against homosexual people.

    I'm to the point now, where I'm not messing around with it anymore... people who are antipathetic toward homosexual people, are people I'm not tolerating anymore; they have only my contempt.
     
    Johnny-C, Feb 24, 2014
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  3. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    You are spot-on man.

    Not 'all' Christians are homophobic nutcases... but I've known a few in my life. Even as a Christian (one who seeks to follow the way of Christ), I endeavor to separate myself from people who use religion to oppress or persecute others.

    I've noticed a significant difference between those who emulate Christ and those who might simply label themselves "Christian". There is a distinction, most times.
     
    Johnny-C, Feb 24, 2014
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  4. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    You are either very naive or playing ignorant.

    He should certainly not have to explain these things to you, in general.

    Then again, there are people who probably don't 'know'. :(
     
    Johnny-C, Feb 24, 2014
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    What are your thoughts on Buddhism? Over the past few years I went from being a Christian to being an atheist (February two years ago) and I am now currently considering Buddhism. Not that this will change my mind, I'm just curious to hear the OPs thoughts on this.
     
    astarisborn94, Feb 24, 2014
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  6. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    I suspect people like that use religion as either access or cover.
     
    Johnny-C, Feb 24, 2014
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the tides go in and the tides go out, God must exist. Why can't people see this compelling argument as proof?
     
    Pardy, Feb 24, 2014
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Humanism comes in many forms, including religious humanism... ;)
     
    Wolverine, Feb 24, 2014
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    What's the capital of Montana?

    No Googling.



    (He said ask him ANYTHING. :) )
     
    Gorn Captain, Feb 24, 2014
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Using religion to oppress people seems rather unChrist like.

    Actually, most Christians, most of them being members of the American Taliban, are unChrist like. It is almost as if they have never read the Bible.
     
    Wolverine, Feb 24, 2014
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    Wow. Pastor just said yesterday that the problem in American isn't that people don't believe in God. It's that they believe in many gods. What do you expect from a nation so indiscriminate?

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    What do these gods do for you that the God of the Bible, the God of Abraham, didn't do for you?
     
    YouLie, Feb 24, 2014
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  12. Johnny-C

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    Many have read it, I'm sure. But the ways that many allow themselves to be 'indoctrinated' by religion, literally weaponizes their lives/faith. Not everyone wearing the label "Christian" is Christlike.

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    Got a transcript of your pastor's sermon?
     
    Johnny-C, Feb 24, 2014
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  13. YouLie

    YouLie Well-Known Member

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    Lol. No, sorry. You'll just have to take my word for it. If there's something more you'd like to know, I may be able to recall it.
     
    YouLie, Feb 24, 2014
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  14. Johnny-C

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    I simply wonder the 'context' of the Biblical references your pastor related. I think you might need his notes for that info.
     
    Johnny-C, Feb 24, 2014
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    Why would there need to be a Biblical reference? It's an observation. The gods we was referring to are the idols in our culture.
     
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    I really don't what you pastor is saying, that's all. I'm curious how he meant to justify what he said.
     
    Johnny-C, Feb 24, 2014
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    Idols. Does that answer your question?
     
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  18. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    "Idols" are not new problem; not by any means. (I just wonder what else he said, that's all.)
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    No! That doesn't exist at all !

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    How was anyone crucified ?

    Or is that just a humungous over-dramatic way of saying they changed a law?
     
    Micketto, Feb 24, 2014
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    I offer you a Rule #10 call out.

    Mostly because that is one the stupidest things I've read in this forum.
     
    Micketto, Feb 24, 2014
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    Homosexual people are discriminated against frequently; why does that happen?
     
    Johnny-C, Feb 24, 2014
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    no they aren't

    its all in thier mind

    :)
     
    taxrentonly, Feb 24, 2014
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  23. Johnny-C

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    While not optimal dialogue... that level of generalization is not unusual in this forum.

    I would say this: There are many Christians whose faith has been 'weaponized' and they hurt others using the same.
     
    Johnny-C, Feb 24, 2014
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    You mean, aside from your posts?
     
    Wolverine, Feb 24, 2014
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    Yeah... optimal would be quite an overstatement, but the level of generalization was just stupid. You have to agree with that.

    Now...

    I, as a Christian, agree with you. There are many who use their religious belief as a weapon to attack with. But, that is far from "most Christians".
    "Most" Christians, and their churches are very welcoming to those whom they disagree with.

    You aren't going to get your message across to people you demonize, or ostracize, or exclude.
    People who do that are not acting as Christ would. They may be the loudest portion of a group but they are far from representative.

    There are a lot of people on this forum who just plain hate Christianity, and will say anything at all to knock Christians down.
    The person I was responding to is just one of many.
     
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