Russia planing for WW#3?

I think that it is so apt that Putin tricked our 'great' U.S. spies that they were not going to invade Ukraine two days ago. U.S. is too busy spying on Americans. The data they collect abroad requires intelligent interpretation without adding in personal bias and wishful thinking

 

Wga....really?

You talk to me as if I have that kind of power?

A guy who had to FREEZE HIS ASS OFF waiting in the belly of a C-5B for countless hours for some Politician to grow a set of BALLS!!!????

I might be in charge of all and everything that goes on once I am on the ground BUT....in the meantime....I have to wait to be offered such....WORK.

There are a lot of very good people who are a part of the U.S. Military and a part of various Intel. Groups and then all that good work these people NEVER EVER is acknowledged or heard of UNLESS....SOME POLITICIAN F@#$ UP....THEN.....such Good People's work is turned and twisted and made a scapegoat.

An example of this is what happened to Lt. Colonel Oliver North.....and his support teams.

Cuba and Fidel Castro along with a LOT of Russian Military Advisers had many plans to country by country destabilize the entire Middle and Southern American Hemisphere.

Russia supplied the plans and the equipment and money and Cuba disseminated these to Nicaragua, Grenada, Venezuela....etc....but the Soviets knew they could not OVERTLY supply such activity as the United States declared long ago any intervention by the Soviets into the Norther or Southern American Hemisphere would be considered a direct intervention upon the United States and the ONLY country that was exempt was CUBA.

So....when the Soviet's had Cuba send Millions in Arms and Support to topple the government of Nicaragua which became Communist under Daniel Ortega....the Democracy and Freedom loving people of Nicaragua asked for U.S. help and we gave it to them in the form of arms and CIA advisers...and we did this for years....and then....

....THE IDIOTS IN CONGRESS CANCELLED ALL FURTHER FUNDING FOR THE SUPPORT OF NICARAGUAN'S FIGHTING AGAINST COMMUNIST FORCES....which meant we would have been leaving people who were COUNTING ON US....TO DIE!!!!

You just cannot do this.

The United States cannot commit to a policy where peoples lives depend upon us and then one day we just say...OH...SO SORRY.....YOUR ON YOUR OWN!!!

So....enter some VERY SECRET DIRECTIVES....and enter Oliver North.

So...how do you get money to support people fighting against a repressive Communist Regime without being able to get such Money from Congress?

EASY!!! You pull a DR. BROWN BACK TO THE FUTURE PINBALL PARTS FOR PLUTONIUM SCAM!!!

After the 1979 Iranian Revolution Iran could not get parts for the F-14 Jet's we sold to Iran under the Shah.

The F-14 was a Highly Advanced Aircraft and only American Made Parts can keep one flying. Iran wanted these parts....and had been trying for years to buy them directly from the American Manufacturer or any American Military Personal who might be able to get them but we knew this and watched to make sure it did not happen.

So....Oliver North set's up a deal with multiple go betweens where we sell useless fake F-14 spare Parts to Iran for Millions of Dollars which we then use these Millions to supply the Anti-Sandinista Rebels fighting the Communists in Nicaragua....and the CIA goes and secretly MINES the entire port waters off the Nicaraguan coast.

RESULT?

Daniel Ortega....Leader of the Communist Sandinista Regime resigns....Free Elections eventually follow.

Lt. Colonel Oliver North goes on TV Congressional Hearings and makes the U.S. Congressional Leaders who shut down operations which cost many lives of Freedom Fighters look like ASS#@!$.

BUT.....WHO...actually pulled the trigger allowing North to operate?

Guess.

AboveAlpha

 

are we going to fight them with a long supply line why theirs is short this is Russias back yard ? they do have a super anti aircraft defense best in the world, that can knock down most of out aircraft. [video=youtube;tWjYcup_puE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWjYcup_puE[/video] so wheres the quick win by the usa?

 

OH PLEASE!!!

The ONLY reason why Putin did not have tanks rolling in the moment the Ukrainian's through out the Putin backed leadership is because Putin needed to wait a while as the Olympics had just ended.

Like we didn't know!? LOL!!!

AboveAlpha

 

AboveAlpha, When you said "What do you want us to do Wga....start a WAR?" I thought you were talking in general terms... And I gave my answer, in the general scheme of things, as if I were leader ... or future overlord, whatever works!

If I had known you refer to you, yourself, personally, I might just ask you some things...

Am I the only one to see the things I do? Do you see them as well? Or, am I alone?

What would YOU do if you were in charge? You talk about the mess-ups with some politicians, but what would you do that they wouldn't/didn't?

What is your opinion of the future direction of the world, and especially the USA in the future of the world? Keep in mind I'm going to judge you, and how realistic your ideas are, based on the public projections that don't say good things... You may have had the promise of a superpower USA, but I have no such luxury for the future I was promised decline.

 

Well....if things were up to me the very first thing I would do is set up a program to allow the use and release of U.S. Military Low Temp. Micro-Fusion Reactors.

This is something that ordinarily would be classified but it leaked out on the internet a while back so it exists as information in the public domain.

We need this....but we need to make certain such High Technology does not fall into the wrong hands as I could spend all day talking about how many Military applications such Fusion Tech. could be used for and within.

The BEST WAY to prevent war is for people to have cheap, unlimited and clean energy....and we have the capability to do this both with Low Temp. Fusion and we also have viable Solar Tech.

But we would have to have such Technology used to generate Cheap Unlimited Energy PROTECTED BY THE U.S. MILITARY....as we could not chance such Tech. to be allowed to fall into the wrong hands.

As far as everything else....this alone would ensure a bright future for the entire Planet Earth.

But still...the U.S. Military is going to remain to be #1 probably until a WORLD GOVERNMENT finally takes shape.

Economically....the entire PLANET depends upon the U.S. Economy not to mention the United States being the worlds #1 Manufacturer and #1 Grower of Food is single handedly responsible for keeping over 1 Billion People Alive a Year as such people depend on U.S. Food Aid to LIVE.

Contrary to the belief of some people....compared to other nations....the United States does a HUGE AMOUNT OF GOOD in the world be it from U.S. Food Aid to U.S. Aid in Medical, Immunizations...just the Mosquito Nets alone the United States sends to Africa and Quinine is responsible for saving over 230 Million lives from Malaria.

The Charitable Groups and Foundations that are both Public and Private in the United States account for over 91% of all Charitable Donations IN THE WORLD!!!

The U.S. Military and Navy has saved the lives of MILLIONS OF PEOPLE all around the world when disasters strike such as the Indonesian Tsunami....the Earthquake and Tsunami in Japan....Earthquake in Haiti, Iran, Turkey,,,,etc...etc.

As well without the U.S. Navy which is the ONLY ENTITY EXISTING that can protect the Worlds Shipping which allows Trade not to fall into Chaos due to Piracy and the threat of certain Nations taking control of Shipping lanes.

EVERY SINGLE TIME.....any Nation all of a sudden decides that a long time used International Waters Shipping Lane is now considered....A PART OF OUR NATION....the very first thing the United States does is send in a U.S. Air Force over flight of such an area and then sends in U.S. Navy Ships or perhaps even a Carrier Group.

CHINA just puled this S#!% and within 12 hours of a Chinese Communist Party Leader making a declaration that a long time International Sea and Air Corridor would now be CHINA'S ONLY and that China's Military would shoot down and sink and aircraft or ships that went into that area....the United States Air Force flew a few B-52H Bombers into this supposedly now Chinese Airspace and then sent in U.S. Navy ships to the area.

What did China do?

Not one F@#$^%@ THING!!!

So....until Humanity can evolve to a point where we can have a World Government....I see the U.S. Military and U.S. Economic Ties becoming even stronger.

And I would get cheap and green energy going as this is what will end the need for Military's.

AboveAlpha

 

Europe is not a long supply line, did you forget Europe? We also have fine anti-aircraft systems, just so ya know. Nothing is going to happen other than that Russia is showing their true colors and they will pay finacially, we will see how happy Russians are once they feel the effects of their economy going even further downhill.

 

We can't fell further than you both economically and morally even if we wanted to.

 

The word is "fall" and you guys never have been at the level of the USA either morally or economically, you cannot fall from a place you have never been to, Period.

 

Sorry typo.
We are at this palce right now. Period. Are you enjoying that the whole world considers YOU the biggest threat? But hey, at least you can enjoy body cavity search and other gay rights.

 

You are making the mistake of believing your own propaganda, huge mistake, but some never learn their history. Your KGB apsolutely Loves their body cavity searches, just so ya know. I am not gay and gays have not attained their full rights as citizens, yet.

 

Examples?

Don't know. Havn't been traeted like that ever. Is that your personal expirence? Be adviced, that if guys in uniformed serched you in US (and rumors are that they are keen on it) and said that they are from KGB that is likely to be a lie.

I wasn't calling you gay, for that matter. Nevertheless, enjoy!

 

Fine. But do europeans want to die for Ukrainian facists? Russians would die for their brothers and for the veterans of Great Patriotic war. That goes without saying. The people who are in Crimea are russians. That's true. But russian military is not yet there. It is just russian people who are ready to fight and die. With whatever weapons and whatever supply line. They know what they are standing for. And what about You? You want to invade Russia, because some politicians who will be most probably not elected again told you to do so?

 

OMG. In Russia gays have just the same passports and ALL the rights that are given to any other person whatever he feels orgasm for... )) Didn't they have the same in EU? Ah they need some extra rights to allow some of perverted government memebers to take as much of their slaves as it is possible.

 

You seem to ASSUME alot. I Never said we should invade Russia, I said no one will do anything other than sanctions and freezing of funds in Banks. Russia will pay economically, whether you want to admit it or not. The people of the Ukrain do not want Russians in their Country and the only reason Putin wants it is because of their resources. You say Russians are ready to die, and that is good because plenty of them will end up dieing there.

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You are one very confused poster.

 

That is the aim of the whole thing with the Ukraine! Of course Russia will pay. Wars never bring profits.

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Resources? Ukraine? Hmmmmmm As a poster who assumes a lot I dare to ask. What are these "resources"? It seems to me that you are mixing Russia with some other country, which truely starts the wars due to their resources, which tend to locate only on the territory of bloody dicatators.

 

Don't know how much moiney is made by those in the business of war, do ya.

Such as which country, The US got nothing for fighting the last two wars.
What is the reason Russia invaded, come on be honest.

 

The money is earned on the military orders, and the money goes from the taxpayers (who are more obedient during the years of war) to big guys. The money can also be earned in a situation when a weapon maker who is located further from the battlefield is making a weaponry for those who need the weapon to save his life... Like it happened with the UK which was the world superpower #1 and USA. Someone made some money and obtained colonies and trade preferences. Who could that be?

Ukraine has more than a quarter of russians. Already. After the soviet Union collapsed the Ukraine unherited its eastern provinces with russian people. They are the people who rebel at the moment that I am trying to encourage you to look out of the box. They are the russians who will never serve under facist commands.

As for Putin he understands that facists will not accept their loss and will fight till the very last russian and ukrainian with a grateful wow-spectators on you side of the Pacific Ocean... So that is why Putin will not wait and poay their game... But this is smth that I s rather hope for and this is not the reality. Yet. Unfortunately Russia hasn't invaded Ukraine and our armour units are so far not in Kiev.

 

our military is ten times higher then the next top countries in line, why do we need a military so big?

 

Ukrainium... sorry could not help myself

 

THE US current military is tough but can you imagine what a joke most of the draftees would be if it came to that????????? Soft, video game playing, effeminate jokes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

because were control freaks by our nature.

 

Russians beat the Germans best forces in the cold weather there great in winter fighting modern russian paratroops

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/operation_barbarossa.htm