Why do liberals hate guns?

The best arguement of the right to own arms I ever heard



http://www.youtube.com/embed/_T-F_zfoDqI?rel=0

 

Restrictions on rights are pretty obvious when you look at them. Restricting actions based on immaturity are pretty common. Restrictions for those proven not of their right mind are common. Restrictions of rights when someone has violated others rights such as prisoners. Other restrictions are law that provide punishment for violating others rights such as the old, yelling fire in a crowded theater.

Now, can you tell me how owning a gun somehow violates others rights? You can't, there is no compelling argument you can make that would make sense.

 

Many rights are restricted/qualified for the purpose of seeing to it that one exercising their 'perceived' rights, does not step-upon or endanger another's rights/safety.

That is reality.

 

I am a liberal and I don't hate guns. I hate that all too often they get into the wrong hands. That is what needs to be fixed.

 

Exactly what I said, it is only law that backs up natural rights in the first place by providing punishment for violating others.

Now, can you tell me how owning a gun somehow violates others rights? You can't, there is no compelling argument you can make that would make sense.

 

Again.......why is "restrictions" on guns equal to "hate of guns"..............when every other right you have also has restrictions and that doesn't equate to hate?

If "restriction on guns" equals "hate of guns"..................then if your logic is sound, "restrictions on voting" equals "hate of voting". Those that want to restrict guns must hate guns and those that want to restrict voting must hate voting.

 

But sadly it misinterprets "restrictions" on your rights................as a complete removal of your rights, which is wrong.

 

Care to answer my question?

 

Why, when you have failed to answer mine? So, you don't like me doing what you did, huh? How interesting?

 

Cars aren't designed to kill people.

I enjoy shooting. I own but don't carry (I leave my guns and bows at the range). I have been shooting since I was 14 but didn't get real training until I was 17. I don't "hate" guns but I don't worship them either. I don't think they're necessary for any civilian to own or carry. If they were completely outlawed, there are plenty of other hobbies for me. Guns aren't needed for life or liberty unless you live in a war zone.

 

Gun rights and the 2nd Amendment are just political footballs for those who wish to remain embroiled in the nonsensical 'us against them' culture of animosity that exists in this country.

In the end, a hand gun is just about as likely to be used in a murder as is a brick.
In fact, knives, ball bats (clubs), and fists are MORE likely to be used in a murder in the country.

If somebody wants to kill somebody bad enough, they are going to find a weapon and they will find a way.

I believe that what really frightens the most ardent supporters of gun rights and unlimited gun ownership is the notion that once an all-powerful government takes away your guns, they can crush you and silence dissent with impunity.
This is a valid fear I guess, since there are many instances in history where this was so.

That said, I believe that it would be quite difficult for ANY government or administration to take away all the guns from the law-abiding citizens of the 21st century United States. I predict that there would be quite a bloodbath if it were ever attempted.

 

..and just for the record, I own quite a few handguns.
And one each rifle and shot-gun.
A broadsword as well, if you can wrap your mind around that.

I enjoying owning them because they make me happy, not because said ownership defines me in any way.

 

Liberals hate guns because they reflect individual responsibility and an overt power to live freely, both ideas not allowed by the collective.

 

It's called hoplophobia. And it's rabid among liberals.

Logically, it makes zero sense to support women's rights and not be an avid Second Amendment advocate. Women are biologically smaller than men a large percentage of the time, and a gun is the ultimate equalizer. A 250 lb. man is going to have a much harder time raping and/or murdering a 120 lb. woman if she is armed and trained in firearms use.

 

It's important to remember that liberals are not anti gun at all. If you want the state to enforce gun control laws, there needs to be a credible threat that the state is willing to use its' guns. Liberals are in favor of a monopoly of guns in the hands of the state.

 

I might consider myself a liberal. I own a gun.

You really love attacking straw men, eh?

 

What I find interesting on this thread that several Liberals have stated they own guns are not against gun ownership, yet righties continue to state Liberals hate guns. A Lie, no matter how many times it is repeated, does not magically turn into truth.

 

Is this a joke?

If not, please provide evidence.

 

Perhaps it is because one can count the number of gun grabbers of the right on the fingers of one hand while Congress is infested with grabbers of the left.

The left loved the 'may issue' rules once found in NYC and Boston. That allowed folk with money, influence, and connections (leftist elites) to both own and carry arms but kept the riff-raff unarmed as folk like cab drivers, store clerks, and normal folk prevented from doing the same. Look at Senator Feinstein as an example....she is the poster girl for the 'guns for me but not for thee' school of liberal gun owners.

 

Strange since among the Cons and Libs I know there are as many pro and anti-gun on both sides, must be Texas.

 

I agree that this issue is not purely a right/left thing, but rather more a masculine/feminine thing. Our culture has become estrogen-soaked emasculated, collective gynocentrism, so it's no wonder symbols of power or individual freedom offend so many today. When center, libertarians or right people see a woman with a gun it turns us on because it is a complete anomaly for women to embrace individualism in this way as opposed to statism. Hollywood has keyed into this and floods us with absurd but tittilating "girls with guns" themes constantly now. The sad reality, though, is that the gynocentric culture is completely willing to trade freedom for security, even when the security offered is a total sham.

 

You do speak a truth...one that explains why the grabbers lose so many of these arguments on the national level. While the vast majority of grabbers in Congress are dems, many dems in free states are NOT grabbers....The dem political class is not in touch with its base on the issue.

 

How can you assure me that you won't run your car into a group of kids waiting for the school bus?

 

Sorry, but I asked first and you went off about something I never said so maybe you were responding to someone else.

 

What you do not understand is that Dems (Liberals) do not march in lockstep to some single agenda, I know it is a concept many Cons do not grasp but it is the simple truth.