Reagan is famous for ending . . .

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  1. Phoebe Bump

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    the Cold War and telling Gorby to tear down a wall. Now that the Cold War is back on, what is he famous for?
     
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    Because Obama brought it back. Duh. Obama is RUINING Reagan's legacy.
     
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    Attempting to join the communist party in the 1930's. They rejected his membership request as well.
     
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    This is a BS often repeated by American corporate media. Reagan told and Gorbachev responded: "Yes, Sir!" The collapse of the Soviet Union began still when we had Jimmy Carter as a president. In the Soviet Union, dissident movement was in full swing, mass emigration of undesirables was going on and the economy was crumbling. Even Communist leaders loved songs of Vysotsky and reading samizdat . The Soviet system died the natural way, when it was ripe enough. Gorbachev could drink vodka and eat caviar a few more years, but he had enough dignity and courage to start taking the system apart. Then, it went down as avalanche.
     
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    Russian aggression predates Obama. It started under Bush, who did nothing to counter it.
     
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    Russia, as well as USA, preserve their right to keep countries near their borders in peace by force, if necessary. Russia did exactly what USA would do under similar circumstances. I do not see any aggression to be concerned with.
     
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    I had no idea that the Western Bloc was back...
     
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    It doesn't matter. Reagan has claimed it and most people have given it to him.

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    OR, the Cold War never ended, right?
     
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    A central instrument for putting pressure on the Soviet Union was Reagan’s massive defense build-up, which raised defense spending from $134 billion in 1980 to $253 billion in 1989. This raised American defense spending to 7 percent of GDP, dramatically increasing the federal deficit. Yet in its efforts to keep up with the American defense build-up, the Soviet Union was compelled in the first half of the 1980s to raise the share of its defense spending from 22 percent to 27 percent of GDP, while it froze the production of civilian goods at 1980 levels.

    Reagan’s most controversial defense initiative was SDI, the visionary project to create an anti-missile defense system that would remove the nuclear sword of Damocles from America’s homeland. Experts still disagree about the long-term feasibility of missile defense, some comparing it in substance to the Hollywood sci-fi blockbuster Star Wars. But the SDI’s main effect was to demonstrate U. S. technological superiority over the Soviet Union and its ability to expand the arms race into space. This helped convince the Soviet leadership under Gorbachev to throw in the towel and bid for a de-escalation of the arms race.

    Particularly effective, though with unintended long-term side effects, was the Reagan administration’s support for the mujahideen (holy warriors) that were fighting against the Soviet forces in Afghanistan. Reagan was determined to make Afghanistan the Soviet Vietnam. Therefore in 1986 he decided to provide the mujahideen with portable surface-to-air Stinger missiles, which proved devastatingly effective in increasing Soviet air losses (particularly helicopters). The war in Afghanistan cost the United States about $1 billion per annum in aid to the mujahideen; it cost the Soviet Union eight times as much, helping bankrupt its economy. Apart from his defense policies, Reagan also weakened the Soviet Union through economic moves. His supporters’ claims that he brought about the fall of the Soviet Union are somewhat weakened by the fact that he ended Carter’s grain embargo, which had produced alarming food shortages in the Soviet Union. On the other hand Reagan was able to reduce the flow of Western technology to the Soviet Union, as well to limit Soviet natural gas exports to Western Europe. One of the most effective ways in which his economic policies weakened the Soviet Union was by helping bring about a drastic fall in the price of oil in the 1980s, thereby denying the Soviet Union large inflows of hard currency".

    Reagan got Saudi Arabia to drop the price of oil down to about $15.00 a barrel which really hurt the Soviets as their biggest source of money was with gas and oil exports.
     
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    uhhh the same thing. The part you failed on is Obama is now famous for undoing what Reagan did. Quite a feat actually. You have to be a complete moron to be the President who freakn started the cold war back up. Then again what did you people really expect from a guy who has nail bomb terrorists as friends and is incapable of building a frickn website with half a billion dollars and the full weight of the United States govt? So far Im surprised he hasn't droned the white house yet on accident.
     
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    Ronald Reagan’s determination to destroy communism and the Soviet Union was a hallmark of his eight-year presidency, carried out through a harsh nuclear policy toward Moscow that softened only slightly when Gorbachev came to office.

    He is vividly remembered in Russia today as the force that precipitated the Soviet collapse.

    “Reagan bolstered the U.S. military might to ruin the Soviet economy, and he achieved his goal,” said Gennady Gerasimov, who served as top spokesman for the Soviet Foreign Ministry during the 1980s.

    Reagan’s agenda toward Moscow started shortly after the start of his first term — and marked a major departure from the mild detente of the Jimmy Carter administration.


    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5145921/n...helping-bring-down-soviet-union/#.Uyt0Qjbn_cs
     
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    Is the confederacy back too?
     
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    I love it 6 years in and its still Bushs fault......no no wait.....its Reagan didn't accomplish anything. Do you guys actually believe your own crap?
    When Obama went on his apology tour it was a green light to all aggressive nations that we will not do anything. They were 100% correct. Would you like the caught on mic video of Obama selling us out to Russia or have we all seen that enough?
     
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    The Cold War was a farce just like what is happening now.

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    Reagan's legacy is a farce.
     
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    Which was what again exactly?


    You mean start the same farce all over again?

    Tell us hero, what exactly do you think he should do?
     
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    Reagans legacy isn't much different than Obama's; http://on.msnbc.com/1elfQ0y
     
  19. Marine1

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    That isn't what the Soviets said themselves is it?


    He is vividly remembered in Russia today as the force that precipitated the Soviet collapse.

    “Reagan bolstered the U.S. military might to ruin the Soviet economy, and he achieved his goal,” said Gennady Gerasimov, who served as top spokesman for the Soviet Foreign Ministry during the 1980s."
     
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    No, it's what the CIA said.

    Right. And my kids are paying for Reagan's heroism. Awesome, what a hero.
     
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    Ummm Us "Heroes" think the moron shouldn't have went on his apology tour in the first place. LIKE I SAID WHEN HE DID IT. He cant do anything now except sit back and watch the frikn mess he made blossom into a nightmare. This is why us heroes are smart enough not to vote for a complete moron.
    This is where you blurt something about Reagan (who has been dead for how long now?) or Bush or Palin. Blame everyone except the moron who is at fault. You are in what we heroes call "denial" and it is both hilarious and fascinating to watch.
     
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    The threads' about Ray-gun's supposed victory, "hero" Who blurted again?
     
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    Well sir, your kids, grandkids and great grandkids are going to pay for Obama's spending.
     
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    No your kids are paying for Obamas drunken sailor never ending port stop as well as your grandchildren and their grandchildren and their grandchildren.
     
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    Hello! I'm from Europe, the place where history comes from.



    Yes and your England along with Poland has a statue of Reagan. As a matter of fact, Poland also named a park after Reagan. Wonder why?
     

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