Continued thread-Not required by law to tip

That sums it up!

 

so 5 bucks is measly is it?

well, that's what a waiter earns in TWO hrs after the tip deduction.

glad you agree with the exploitation.

 

Lol. Thanks for your contribution.

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Lol. This is why the system is a hot mess.

 

Interesting. Lol. Now we have people criticizing customers for how they spend their $$. That is socially awkward.

 

Have you guys ever been a server? Do you know what actually goes into it?

They deal with horrible people on both their client and employer side. Since they are the "face" of the operation they often take the brunt of ANY mistake made throughout the clients meal.

Unreal service - your discretion, I have tipped over 100%
Great service - 20-25%
Normal service - 15%
Bad service - again your discretion, I have written "learn to be a human being" and left a quarter before.

To me it's all about how you are treated, but if they aren't "amazing" remember they are just doing their job.

3 year server at Macaroni Grill
1 year server at Houston's

 

Socially awkward? WTF??

You do realize that is the basis of almost every political argument, how to spend money....

 

We're talking about tipping on this thread. Please stay on topic. Thank you for your contribution.

 

Who's a slave? And who's treating them like one? This is where it gets really confusing.

 

Where has that been proven? I've had very few servers that aren't giving their best.

 

Not really. If their tips and salary combined don't end up as minimum wage, they are guaranteed by law to get minimum wage.

I have made supplemental income from a job with tips. There was no groveling involved. It was do my job the best I could, and hope for tips. I don't understand the exploitation--nobody is forced to be a waiter for income. For some, it's a better choice than other jobs. I guess you think all people who work for others are exploited. We should all just work for the government......

 

The other choice would be for the owner to charge more and pay the servers more. It's a zero sum game. If you get rid of tips, you just make the restaurant charge more.

I guess you don't have the personality to make money off of your serving ability, part of which includes being friendly.

 

First, the restaurant has to guarantee minimum wage. If the tips + wage combined don't equal minimum wage, then the owner is required to pay minimum wage.

http://www.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm

 

The more practical thing is, if you think the tipping system is wrong, you should open up a restaurant that doesn't allow tipping, and pay your employees a wage commensurate with that fact. Most waitpeople and restaurant owners like the current system. It works.

 

I know you're confused. Apparently no one ever taught you about treating people with respect.

I've bumped your stupid thread far more than it deserves. Here's one more for ole times sake. Now go sniff someone else's crotch.

 

Glad you said something about being friendly. That's the key ingredient.

 

Best post ever!!

 

I have notice waters have been more courteous the last month or so. Good for them.

 

Many sorts of people are tipped my issue is can the person set a fee for a service or do they have an employer who should be paying them a wage that is reasonable?

Bathroom Attendants, Buskers (Sidewalk Performers), Street Window Washers (clean car windows) and such ONLY get tips so that is their income and they do so self-employed so giving them a dollar or some change is fine its how they make money and they have no fee or employer.

If your a fee setting profession say a cosmetologist charge enough so you make what you need to make and not expect tips. If your a waged worker then organize and fight for better wages up front without tipping expected. Make tipping an extra not expected or needed.

I tend to tip but usually exactly 10% of the bill minus sales tax if a meal is $8.40 I tip 84 Cents if the service is decent and if not decent I'll leave less (or nothing if it sucks).

 

So you basically go into a restaurant knowing from the get-go that you're going to screw someone over...classy.

 

84 cents??

Ok, as I have said before I am a server part time. I worked this Saturday from 430-930 and made $200 in tips for the night. And that was after tipping out my bartender and busser. I dont expect to make that much in tips every night but you better beleive I am going to try by giving my customers the best experience they can have.

I have a few regulars who come in every saturday, they are two old ladies and the cutest things in the world. Their bill usually comes out to about $40 and they tip maybe $3 lol. I still give them the same service I gave the party that tipped me out $60 on a $120 bill.

A good server doesnt EXPECT to be tipped..but we will work hard to be tipped a fair amount for the service we gave you. Thats how it works here. If you dont like tipping, stay home and cook your own meal.

I will take your 84 cents, but trust me, once you leave we are talking about what a miser you are and hoping we can pawn you off on the new girl next time you come in.

 

Put the emphasis on the owners not the customers. Tipping system is broke all the way around.

 

I didn't take it as what was said. It's putting the customer, the most important person in the equation, in a no win situation. What business model does that? Tipping!

 

Either you never go to the same restaurant twice, or you like spit in your food.......

 

Seems to work fairly well, IMHO. Waitstaff gets paid fairly well. They are motivated by the prospect of no tip to get pretty good service. Customer has choice in how much they want to tip. I don't really see the downside of it.

 

That was exactly what he said. He said that he goes into a restaurant knowing from the get-go that he's going to screw someone over. Specifically, he stated that, "[He] tend to tip but usually exactly 10% of the bill minus sales tax if a meal is $8.40 I tip 84 Cents if the service is decent..."

If you go into an establishment knowing that the person serving you relies on a certain minimum tip to make a living and you intend to leave substantially less than that even for good service then you are going in with the foreknowledge that you're about to give someone the shaft. There's no two ways about that.

What are you even talking about? How is the customer in "a no win situation"? You go in and are waited on and served a meal; then you pay for said meal and said service and go home fat and happy. What's the problem? What kind of mentality is required to come home from going out to eat feeling victimized because of such a simple custom?