Sam the Ram. First openly gay player will play for St. Louis

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  1. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Understood.

    Considering the NFL's extreme tendency to specialize this is a very real possibility.

    The Rams chose him (due to the Missouri connection, no doubt). Now they are stuck with him.
    To cut him now would cause immense cries of homophobia (despite the fact they drafted him...though they sort of had to).
     
  2. nra37922

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    I don't care if he's gay or a martian if he can play and makes the team great more power to him, if not that's life. I just don't want to hear from the gay liberation army that he was cut because he's gay BS.
     
  3. superbadbrutha

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    Well they can't use that, because if that was the case he would have never been drafted.
     
  4. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So pissed. No I can discriminate if I choose to. No gays would protest me, the media wouldn't cover it. I do however, notice you dont want to address how blacks can hate whites and women can hate men with no repercussions.

    Why? Because the vocal minority wins over the silent majority every time. Its acceptable to be hated if you are a white, straight male. Just part of society these days. In your eyes, its ok, because my point that tolerance only goes one way is 100% true. We're tolerant as long as you agree with us.
     
  5. pocket aces

    pocket aces Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why can't people just be happy for the guy and wish him well instead of concocting a bunch of stupid conspiracies?
     
  6. nra37922

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    Well we can all thank God he isn't playing baseball. Otherwise we would be debating whether he is a pitcher or a catcher.
     
  7. leekohler2

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    Because the world is going to end because gay people play sports! Haven't you heard? ;)

    All of society is doomed!
     
  8. JavisBeason

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    because the fact is.... can anyone name others that play this position.....


    I keep up with sports and can name..... Clowney.... the #1 overall draft pic.... I can name JJ Watts, for the Texans.... and now Michael Sam.


    2 of them are known for their performance on the field in their position..... Michael Sam is known for being gay.


    what other 7th round pick gets this kind of noteriety. you claim it's about the game, let him play. You wouldn't even know his name had he not come out of the closet earlier this year or popped an erection during the NFL combine..... and neither would VISA who offered him a sponsorship .
     
  9. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am happy for him. Id be super stoked if I were him. Dude grew up in a (*)(*)(*)(*) neighborhood and won SEC CDPOY. Thats impressive.

    That doesnt change the fact that, had he not been gay, he would not have been drafted.
     
  10. RP12

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    Please explain this "fact". There was plenty of discussion about him not fitting in in locker rooms.. I guess that didnt affect his draft status though right?
     
  11. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure. He is not tall enough to obstruct a QB's view, nor is he strong enough to hold an offensive lineman in place in the event that, say, a team decides to blitz a linebacker in his gap. That's not necessarily a bad thing, as other DE's with similar height and weight measurements were drafted in the 4th round, but the difference is they are quick enough to defend TE's and slot receivers if they need to, and also have the speed to turn the edge in a drop back situation or in the event of a running play. Michael Sam does not. His footwork is behind where it needs to be, he doesn't open his hips toward the route runners which causes him to automatically be a step behind.

    And his physical speed and acceleration and jumping ability (cone drill, shuttle run, vertical leap) were also pretty pathetic. His 4.91 40 yard dash is slooooowww, and he only benched the 225 standard 17 times. His only hope is to lose about 30 pounds and improve his coverage ability or he would be a nobody, if he weren't gay.

    His sexual preference has nothing to do with the fact that, for a DE, physically he measured poorly in almost every category. Many projected him not to make a roster, let alone be drafted.

    But don't let facts get in the way. I'm sure he was drafted for his outstanding character.

    He belongs in the CFL.
     
  12. iAWESOME

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    He isn't going to be on an opening day roster. Like most other 7th round picks, he will be cut in mid August. I don't care that he is gay, and I am happy for him that he is true to who he is, but the media has shoved this story down our throats.
     
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    And if you were curious...

    Michael Sam - DE

    40 yd dash - 4.91 seconds
    225 Reps - 17
    Vertical - 25.5 inches
    Broad Jump - 114 inches
    3-Cone drill - 7.8 seconds
    20 yd shuttle 4.7 seconds

    Jackson Jeffcoat - DE

    40 yd dash - 4.63 seconds
    225 Reps - 18
    Vertical - 36 inches
    Broad Jump - 123 inches
    3-Cone drill - 6.9 seconds
    20 yd shuttle 4.1 seconds
    His father, Jim Jeffcoat, won two Super Bowls with the Dallas Cowboys and is an assistant coach at Colorado. Highly recruited Texas native who also lettered in basketball (four years) and ran track (three times).
    Draft Projection: Rounds 5-6

    One is gay and was drafted, one is not gay and was not drafted. His sexual orientation had nothing to do with it though. Stop being blind and just admit the truth.
     
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    Nope can't be happy for the guy cause a team found a need to draft him. Lets make up stories and conspiracies to further degrade an athlete who decided to be honest about who he was.
     
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    Off the field, I suppose he's fodder for the culture wars. On the field, the question is whether he can block and tackle. The average 7th round draft pick has a "career" of a bit less than two years. But if he's average and can't make the team (or stick with any team), he'll be back off the field where everyone will be reading tea leaves to decide if he failed despite being gay or because he was gay, and the blocks and tackles won't matter to the culture warriors.
     
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    Question:

    Is Sam the Ram or is someone rammin' Sam?
     
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    Why? Does Samm getting rammed turn you on Mac?
     
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    Am I the only person that read this as, "He can help out the Rams?" :roflol:



    Wow, how nasty are you? For all you know, that tweet was a reference to the Rams drafting a player they didn't need at that position. As HTownMarine already pointed out. So you might want to look in the mirror before you start accusing others of being unevolved.
     
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    Quantity of requests for Michael Sam Rams jerseys 'ridiculous'

     
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    Sounds like a really bad Dr. Seuss book. "I do not like this, Sam the Ram. I do not like ramming Sam."
     
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    If Sam was drafted by the Rams for being gay how long before some true patriot digs up the affirmative action horse and starts beating it? (Seahawks Drafted Richard Sherman Because He Is Black!)


    It is ALL a conspiracy!
     
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    Good one! :woot:

    Of course I shoulda written proper English - "I just hope he can help the Rams out...." and bloody oath they need the help!
     
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    The Rams could dig up the 12 Apostles (minus Judas of course) and put them on the field and the Seahawks would still pound them into turfburger. The only thing standing between Seattle and #2 is the 49ers and even they are looking for a place to hide. Resistance is futile.
     
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    Is it "omg horrible" because he's gay or because he's a crap football player?
    One is a valid opinion and the other is bigoted prattle from a homophobe who deserves to be reprimanded.
    Too bad if you can't tell the difference.
     
  25. JavisBeason

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    far be it from thought police not to punish it just to be safe....




    fwiw - it's like the NFL pot rule..... as a player, your politics about the legality of pot is of no consequence.... if you smoke it and get caught, you will be punished... that's the NFL's right as a league, to create that rule and enforce it. If you then chose to ignore it, that risk is on you. Getting caught and then protesting your displeasure with the rule is the wrong way of handling it. You have a short shelf life in the NFL.... use your time wisely, make as much as you can, and in 5 years or so, you can blaze your brains out 20 hours a day..... and it won't cost you millions in fines and suspensions that you will never be able to make back up.


    same with "expressing an opinion about gays that isn't favorable". You got 5 or so years, then you can become an activist to your hearts content.




    As long as this isn't just some made up on the spot rule they and trying to make an example out of a guy who dared to not support the gay agenda....



    OMG - horrible could be describing the fact that ESPN had cameras waiting with a 7th round draft pick when he, a much higher pick in his day, got nothing. But he admitted and apologized and accepted the punishment. With Miami already under the microscope because of the Richie incident last year... you konw they, of all teams, will react harsher.


    Still a valid opinion he expressed, even if he isn't technically allowed to express it.
     

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