Stormfront linked to over 100 murders

http://jaxairnews.jacksonville.com/...ail-was-wrong-about-recent-mass-killers-being

I am sorry but I do not get my facts from chain emails and then come here and post them as fact. Brietbart back tracked those claims as the article shows, and that none of what Texmaster posted is fact.

 

The idea that recent mass shooters are mostly registered Democrats is a myth

1. Nidal Hasan (the Ft. Hood shooter) lived in either Virginia (his state of residence prior to being sent to Ft. Hood) or Texas, neither of which has partisan registration. Therefore the claim that he was a "registered Democrat" is false. I do not know if he voted or how he voted, but I do know that unless he was registered in a state in which he did not reside, that the claim that he is a registered Democrat is FALSE.

2. Since Virginia does not have partisan registration there is also no way to tell whether Seung-Hui Cho was a Democrat, but again because there is no partisan registration in the state we can say that the claim that he is a registered Democrat is FALSE. (Update: A more obvious point is that Cho was a resident alien, not a US citizen, so he was not eligible to vote in the US)

3. The allegation that James Holmes was registered Democrat was based on a Breitbart blogger Joel B. Pollack, who found voter registration records for a DIFFERENT James Holmes who was about the same age. Alex Jones’ Infowars and other right-wing websites then dutifully repeated the lie without verifying it. It was later determined that the Colorado Theater Shooter James Holmes was NOT registered to vote, as evidenced by this retraction: {Newly-released information on the suspect’s birthdate (which, as indicated in our initial report, was a slight mismatch), combined with new details Breitbart News has obtained about the suspect’s likely addresses, together suggest that the suspect may, in fact, not have been registered to vote.}. However, most of right-wing media continued to promote the lie without printing Breitbart sites retraction. The claim that James Holmes was a registered Democrat is FALSE.

4. The claim that Adama Lanza is a registered Democrat has been suggested based not on any evidence that he was registered as one, but on the rather dubious claim that because Connecticut has almost 2 to 1 Democratic registration over Republicans, he was probably a Democrat. (Claim: "Adam Lanza, NewtownConn murderer. Registered Democrats outnumber Republicans by about a 2-1 ratio in Connecticut. The odds are therefore that the Lanza family are (sic) Democrats.") This of course is a bogus argument to begin with, but even if we were to make the claim that a mass shooter’s political affiliation must be the same as the majority of the people in his area, we can debunk this foolish idea by taking this shoddy analysis down to the local level. Yes, Connecticut voted for Barack Obama, BUT the city of Newtown voted for Mitt Romney. If we look at the results we find that Mitt Romney defeated Barack Obama in Newtown by 7451-6784 votes or 51.7 percent to 47 percent. Republican Senate candidate and Tea Party favorite Linda McMahon carried the city over Democrat Chris Murphy by an even larger margin. Add in the other information we have that Lanza’s mother was a “doomsday prepper” and a home schooler in a Republican-leaning city and we can pretty well dispense with the erroneous assumption that Lanza must have been a Democrat (UPDATE: According to at least one media source, Nancy Lanza was a registered Republican. The source does not provide a link, but the author of this article is seeking further confirmation). We can therefore claim that with no evidence to support the claim, the assertion that Lanza was a Democrat is not demonstrated and that in the absence of any evidence it is likely FALSE.

5. Klebold and Harris of course were not old enough to vote and they had no apparent political affiliation. Allegations that they came from families of Democrats or liberal progressives appear to have no sources to substantiate those claims. What little ideology the boys demonstrated owed mostly to an admiration for Timothy McVeigh not Ted Kennedy. Harris’ father was a retired Air Force pilot and Eric Harris wanted to join the Marine Corps. The boys lived in Littleton, Colorado a relatively conservative and affluent suburb of Denver. The claim that their parents were Democrats is UNSUBSTANTIATED. Any suggestion that the two boys were Democrats is demonstrably FALSE.​

For what it's worth, the information about shooters like Holmes being "registered Democrats" originated from Breitbart, so its' unreliable.

 

Pssst . . . in Texas you have to declare as Republican, Democrat, or Independent. They are picky about that. So . . . what else did you get wrong?

 

Because I like to read opposing viewpoints. I also read conservative forums/blogs quite a bit.

 

White nationalists are conservatives who vote for conservative politicians (the ones who vote at least).

Right wingers already see the GOP is quickly becoming a joke to most. The last thing they need to do is lose their white nationalist voting bloc.

 

The right wingers here are desperately trying to deflect from stormfront by bringing up the supposed "massive bigotry and hatred of whites" on websites like like Dailykos. Of course, if one would do an actual comparison of the supposed racism on Dailykos and compare it to any conservative forum or website, or some white nationalist trash website like stormfront, you'll see where the true racism lies. Of course I've offered to do this type of comparison with conservatives before, but they usually scatter like cockroaches when ever I mention doing a comparison.

 

A holocaust "minimalist" is someone who admits the holocaust happened, but tries to downplay it by saying far less people were killed than what the history books say. They typically try to move the number down from millions to the hundreds of thousands, and make retarded, easily debunked claims like "it was physically impossible for millions to have been killed", and "Hitler didn't really want to kill ALL of the Jews and other undesirable minorities. Their usually people who try to downplay many other Axis atrocities, while also overblowing Allied war crimes. They are Nazi sympathizers plain and simple.

Also, irrationally hating liberals and progressives is a white supremacy past time. Go over to SF and you will see that they put white liberals down almost to the same level of Jews. Their bitterness toward multiculturalism, immigration, general progress, international cooperation, and their love of extreme religious positions are all made very apparent. The WS movement has been like that since the KKK's inception in the 1870's.

 

The poster you're responding to joined a "Nationalist group" here on PF.

Just sayin'

 

Whoa, wait a second here! You're not telling me that the KKK, Neo Nazi's and the rest of these retard white supremacist groups are conservatives are you?

According to the almighty conservative base, since the KKK started off as Democrats, that means they were a bunch of liberals who besides lynching blacks, also lynched conservatives back in the day. Surely you aren't suggesting people with the honesty and integrity of conservatives are daring to engage in some kind of revisionist history, eh?

 

Meh, we have conservatives on this website who have called blacks chimps, and have said they should be subjugated. So don't try and play victim, when right wingers here get away with saying a lot of crap.

 

It would be worthwhile for your credibility if you were to back up your arguments and accusations with evidence instead of the worthless banter you've put forth in this thread.

A white nationalist doesn't have demonize anyone for there to be a problem. They want there to a be a place for them and their children in the future. That's really all that is required to be a white nationalist. Because of this, they are labeled Nazis, anti-semites, racists, etc, usually by Jews and other members of the left-wing.

 

OF COURSE NOT! We all know the mighty conservative Lincoln stood firm against the entrenched southern progressives during the Civil War!

 

Lincoln, the progressive hero who Steven Spielberg made a movie of recently, wanted to send the black slaves back to Africa after the Civil War was over. I wonder if that part was included in the movie?

 

So the left would class Lincoln a Neo- Nazi, send blacks back, enforce borders and pro white immigration policies. Sounds like a nationalist. Plus America, Australia and others when they had pro European immigration policies, Israel, Japan ect would all to be neo-Nazis. Or is that pre-Nazis?

 

Lincoln, the progressive hero, thought that was a possible option, and if were splitting hairs here, I would say despite being a pretty disgusting idea, it was still less selfish and (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up than letting slaves continue to be owned for their entire lives, and their descendants as well, all for the monetary gain of southern aristocrats and the small southern middle class.

 

Which is a hard thing to find if you're looking in liberal state controlled media sources.

For some reason leftists feel they need to hide the vast amount of criminal acts committed by their protected peoples, why?

 

Lincoln was a product of his time. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

I have been called a stormfront member often enough by the libs here to know that libs associate any critic of obama or his people with the stormfront.

Its the cowardly way for libs to avoid debating the issues.

 

Indeed. Look at how all of the racists crawled out of the gutter after Obama's election and outed themselves exercising their freedom of speech.
It's very helpful to know what those people are really like so that we can be ready to deal with them when the time comes.

 

Racists of all backgrounds are losers.

 

There are a handful of people here that I, if I had the means, would give a bullhorn, a podium and a speaking permit for every downtown in an American big city possible. They suffer from a slightly more extreme case (as you would expect) of living in a right wing info bubble where they are certain and positive that everyone either secretly agrees with them or are receptive to their message if they could just get it out past the liberal censors and thought police. I once saw a couple of Stormfront kind of guys on a street corner in a big city, handing out 'racial pride' leaflets and shouting about white supremacy and the mongrel menace. At first passersby shook their heads, a few laughed and then after about 20 minutes about 4 or 5 white fellas came over and started beating the aryan out of them. If the cops hadn't showed up............

 

Guilt by association is abhorrent. We have guilt by association laws here in Australia concerning bikies. Populist rhetoric wins elections.

Of course, anyone who murders another is a complete wanker and should be shot/imprisoned - but we should refrain from criminalizing associations.

 

I found this humorous:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t959668/
Apparently they don't care for this forum.

 

Im still wondering why stormfront holds so much interest for you and the other libs on this forum.

They dont represent many people, just like the radical leftwing groups are pretty small.

I think the answer is obvious.

The left on this board wants to ban all speech except theirs and smearing conservatives with the stormfront label contributes to achieving the monoculture that libs dream of.

 

Okay I got curious and so I opened your link. Now I can say that I have visited StormFront. I read as much of the post as I could stomach (too lengthy by a fellow who seems allergic to paragraph breaks) and then returned to PF.

The rant was just a rant -- or at least as much of it as I read -- but what interested me was that it was pretty much identical in format to PF in that it looks to be using the same forums system software template. Now this startled me because from the talk about it in this thread I envisioned it as a rather large and robust (at least semi-commercial) operation more along the lines of say The Daily KOS or Slate e-zine. But it's just another average looking forums system . . . and nothing special.

Meh . . . no big deal.