Austerity Measures, Australian Style.

Notice how Hockey not once used the phrase "austerity measures"...
Instead it was a budget of contributing and rebuilding...
Tell me please if these are not austerity measures...taking from the poor
and giving to the government....increasing the cost of petrol...god I love paying more tax...you pricks...when will they realise they're flogging a dead horse...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbt30UnzRWw&feature=kp
A government who hides behind bullsh1t and bluster...
A budget deficit levy on the rich......forcing people off one benefit to another...reducing
family benefits...blah blah blah....paying to see a GP or go to an EU...more for scripts...blah blah
http://www.smh.com.au/business/fede...urts-his-way-into-history-20140513-387z6.html

 

Why is the government making us pay $7 for a doctor visit and giving $2 to the doctor of it if it's suppose to be about fixing holes in health spending?

 

A US study showed that $1 spent at the GP saved $3 in health costs later. If this stops people going to the GP... guess what? Are the poor exempt at least?

Everything is about ideology for this mob.

 

Polls have 40% of people saying it'll stop them going to the GP.

Luckily for the poor, and children, they won't have to pay the $7.......... after their 10th visit.

 

Paying more for health care is all about making Medicare more profitable...therefore
easier to sell off...but if stats show that less people will go to the Doctor, then how does
it make it more profitable...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=civzfZ_3uVc

 

What Australians say in a poll and what they actually do are different things..........everyone should know that.

 

I reckon only people who are not employed should pay the $7. They are not paying any medicare levy, working people are paying it.

 

keep voting these greedy cruds back in, and you will keep getting what you deserve. Hopefully even the dumbest person will wake-up one day.

 

Why do I get the feeling that you think all unemployed want to be unemployed?

 

Great news peasants...although I suppose we all know about this..
Hockey has cut education and health funding back to buggery...80billion I think was
the figure...needless to say this will force the states to ask for the GST to go up ...clever of
Hockey isnt it....dont blame us...it was the states.....screwed again....just bend over a little more peasants....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6FBfAQ-NDE

 

It's a good thing Abbott found 1/4 billion bucks for the Chaplains.

 

You idiots voted stuttering Stanley in, even after he told you to your faces "don't believe anything I say unless its written down on paper first" - you will learn one day voting in these pathological lying scum-bags.

Don't blame anyone else but yourselves for this mess!! Both political parties LIE to our faces, and you keep voting them in. Well, you get what you deserve - sucked in!!

At least my conscience is clear, I didn't vote for either of those clowns.

 

We will all get into heaven............Thanks Tony, I was getting worried.

 

I quite like the budget. Of course, I'm never going to be happy - but this is pretty decent for a major party's proposal.

Things I like:

• Abolishing ~70 agencies. Good riddance.
• The $7 co-payment for GP visits. Payment should be as close to the person receiving the service as possible, preferably with the individual themselves. $7 is a small start, but it's something.
• Increase in the pension age. Abolish it completely, but this is a good start. Plus, they no longer automatically increase over time, as they're now linked to inflation rather than wages.
• Increase on HECS interest for uni students. I'm a uni student and the whining from students that they might have to pay something close to a free market rate is ridiculous.
• Universities are free to set their own tuition.
• Reduction in Newstart. Again, abolish it completely, but this is a good start.
• Reduction in company tax rate.

Things I dislike:

• Increase in the petroleum tax.
• Increase in spending on infrastructure.
• Increase in defense spending to 2% of GDP.
• Creation of border force - although this merges two existing entities so it's sort of an upside. Time will tell if it's more or less bureaucratic. Given the Coalition's position on boat people I put this in the negative column.
• Financial support for uni students.
• Paid parental leave scheme. More welfare for the upper middle class. Great.
• Dependent spouse tax offset abolished. Less tax is always a good thing, no exceptions.
• The 2% levy on incomes over $180,000.
• Increase in company tax rate for top 3000 firms.
• $10,000 subsidy for businesses who employ seniors.
• Subsidy for businesses who employ dole recipients.

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So yeah, some good, some bad. Better than usual.

 

So you want the Australians university system the same as the USA; only the rich kids have the money to go? Do you really think its wise Australia following "any" US model, considering the USA cannot even get into orbit now without hitch-hiking a ride on a Russian space shuttle? I don't thinks the USA is a civilisation to aspire too.

 

I hope next recession you fall on your arse.

 

Where is the justice in this budget, pieman...???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaWl2lA7968&list=RDLd6fAO4idaI

 

If you get a non-commonwealth supported place it's still $100,000 - it's not like they're lowering the cost of education, they're just changing who pays for it. The question is just that: who should pay for the education? The people receiving it, or the people who are not. I choose the former.

You're free to get a loan (at the free market rate rather than the taxpayer subsidized HECS rate), and there are of course scholarships. I'm not pretending this will be easier on students - it won't. Making people pay for the service they receive rather than robbing others blind rarely helps the person currently benefiting from the theft. That doesn't make such action undesirable, in my view.

I still think tertiary education is handled better than primary and secondary, but there's a long way to go.

Nice song, I'm a fan of Peter, Paul and Mary. As for the budget, justice is found in abolishing as much of the bureaucracy as we can. Including the top job. Axe it all. That's why I'm cautiously optimistic about this budget - government very rarely minimizes itself (practically never) - so it's good to see them at least somewhat slow the rate at which government is accelerating.

 

Abolish the tob job!!!...Im flabergasted...stunned...breathless even...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySEPjEzCpTo

 

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And this is why I am concerned about the spread of right wing (me-ism) American conservative values

Altruism used to be a GOOD thing

 

I have no problem with altruism so long as it's not demanded under threat of imprisonment.

I like that Labor is against the petroleum excise tax increase. Apparently they're now in favor of the levy on incomes over $180,000 pa :/

 

Do you have any idea how corrupt the scholarship system is in the USA right now? Its a known fact in the USA that is takes $30,000US in bribes to get your child into a minor University, and between $15,000 - $20,000 for a College under the scholarship scheme. Its impossible for Ivy League Universities, and even the rich fight between themselves to get their kids a place.

Is this what you want for Australians? Tertiary education determined by money and bribes? This is a recourse of allowing Universities to determine to price of education.

You're NOT that naïve to really think if someone has the power to give your child a special place in a University or College, that they are not going to take advantage of that power?

 

A well educated population is in all our interests - which is why the public have been willing to subsidise it. Fvcked if i want only rich people to stay rich. People from poor backgrounds often have immediate and pressing financial needs - more debt just makes it that much harder to achieve broader social economic mobility. I don't know a great deal about the American education system, but i do know that it is heavily criticised by the 'left' and America rates poorly in relation to economic mobility compared to other OECD nations.

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WTF? You spell favour without the u?

 

I'm not interested in income mobility if it comes at the price of my conception of liberty.

The American tertiary system is without doubt the best in the world. Only the UK even comes into the conversation. The penetration of this very high quality education to the public isn't as high as elsewhere, mostly because the person using the service has to pay for it - which is a good thing.

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What I think you're saying is,

1. that education is to some degree a public good - everyone benefits from it, but only one person has to invest the time and money.
2. that consequently, we should threaten these other people with imprisonment unless they give us their property to fund your schooling (or my schooling, I'm a university student myself).

Would you agree?

I don't stick purely to Australian English. I think "centre" is retarded, for instance.

 

Mate,
I envy you, to make such a comment, you must know them all. All the different countries education and Universities system. I only know a few, and I wouldn't rate the American one top of the bunch.
But hey, its either them or us, which are the best......
Regards