Israeli official admits to forcing Palestinians from West Bank

This activity is clearly illegal and amounts to ethnic cleansing. The territory is indisputibly part of the UN- recognised Palestinian State and occupied by Israel in contravention of UNSCR 242 as well as other principles of international and humanitarian law.
Israel has systematically broken any agreements made under the Oslo Accords to the point wherein international observers consider such accords to be void. Further the Oslo Accords negotiations were conducted in secret - Arafat later dying mysteriously - and Israel has completely ignored its responsibilities to that part of Palestine which it terms ' Area C '

The Palestinian State should now take Israel before the International Courts of Justice wherein it will be condemned internationally for its flagrant rejections of international law. Should the US administration attempt to support such Israeli criminality diplomatically there are other routes which the international community can take which will further isolate Israel and any other State which attempts to support it in contravention of its responsibilities to the United Nations charter.
These routes should be pre-determined and pre-discussed so that nobody is in any doubt about the consequences of ignoring international law.

 

The problem we face is that Israel's routine violations have become so frequent and commonplace that it seems they are almost accepted as the status quo by the powers that be, and who appear to be both powerless and unwilling to do anything about addressing them. I am confident, however, that Israel's criminal leadership will eventually be brought to book.

 

Rest assure that when/if Oslo accords will become void - the entire world will hear about it by formal declarations of both Israel and PLO,

So far the accords stand, and while they stand the Palestinians dont get to build (*)(*)(*)(*) in area C, they can build in area A, possibly B with permits. that's it.

Its not 'ethnic cleansing" to follow Oslo accords.

 

snakestretcher;

I am too- but there remains the problem of the US veto. You'll remember, I'm sure, that the US was found to be guilty in the Nicaraguan affair- and prompty vetoed any action against itself !

The point of pursuing Israel through the courts would be lost if Israel and the US believe that there will be no international blowback from any such repeat. Discussion of the blowback now will have them feeling a tad sticky round the shirt-collar.

 

They are accepted because there is no violation, the Plaestinians violated Oslo by building in area C.

 

Is that so ?

We'll get around to Israel's violation of the Accords if necessary- although that has little bearing upon what the world is going to do about Israeli criminality and US support for it.

 

You keep threatening as if it has some effect......it really doesnt,

Like I told you before Israel stopped collaborationg with the PLO according to the Oslo accords because of Hamas suicide attacks, if you thought Israel will play along while its civilians are murederd every day - then no, it wont.

What was agreed upon untill the implamintation halted - is still valid. the day it wont youll notice by the amount of tanks in Ramallah.

 

Tanks in Ramallah?

Are you invading the West Bank now?

By the way, if you invade an area and then put civilians on it, is that legal or moral?


By the way also, youre right, Moon is always threatening as if something is about to happen. Only violence makes something happen. Thank god for the intifadas wouldnt you say? The situation is much improved since these terrible events.

 

3 star Israeli military officer is not "Israel". What BS
This thread is supported by "Haaretz" - the 50% Palestinian newspaper.
The Palestinian wall of lies started when this thread was opened earlier with a different topic...

 

No, he said the Oslo is void and I said when/if its void we will see tanks in Ramallah.

I used to regard it as a punitive move but other ppl have other views, I dont think we need to regard other ppl rights if they dont regard ours, that's my morals. Oslo was proof no side wants this situation to continue aside from the radicals and since the 90's till today the radicals win and lead us behind them. perhaps its ment to be this way.....

 

forcing arabs from one part of the West Bank to another part, is not forcing them FROM the West Bank.

 

Yes I see.

I can see where youre coming from re rights. Just like killing Israelis is ok since they take the land other people live on. Or killing european jews, including children is ok since...um...whatever I can think of and helps my cause.

Indeed if I happen to think youve taken my wallet, even though you think its your wallet, if I can manage to beat you to pulp and hold you down while my use the wallet then thats worth the effort....

Is that where youre coming from?

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Why do you keep trying to excuse the eviction of human families? Or are arabs not human?

 

Ive done no such thing.

I simply pointed out that forcing arabs from their homes in the West Bank, does not equal deportation from the West Bank, which the OP falsely contended.

 

Build illegally, whichever religion you belong to, and don't apply for permission to build, then it is not surprising your home will be bulldozed. It happens in most countries.

 

Good, then you won't object to the 'settler's' homes on Palestinian territory being bulldozed as they fit your description perfectly.

 

Fair enough, point taken.

Are you happy to see this type of activity or do you see it as necessary given that Arabs are/ have been so violent towards peaceful Israelis?

 

The settlers' homes are also being bulldozed if they are built illegally. I do not object to bulldozing illegal structures. It happens in every country. We can't even build a conservatory adjacent to our house, an extra floor above the roof, or even a tree house for kids in our garden without planning permission.

 

Interesting, you need planning permission, and if you dont like the situation you can visit your local representative and / or campaign for change. - so which representative does a Palestinian appeal to?

 

We can't. We accept the laws. Railway lines are extended and homes and shops are bulldozed. Unfortunately the sooner the illegal builders (again, whichever religion they belong to) in Israel realize that they cannot build in certain areas, the better.

 

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Forcing them from Area C in the West Bank is forcing them from their West Bank- no matter where they are forced to go to.

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Palestine is not Israel. Some map consultation might be beneficial.

 

Yes, you should.

 

Payback for Jordanian ethnic cleansing of Jews during the 1948 War.

 

Yes, karma is a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Nobody cares. Palestine is soooo 1950s.

 

the whole argument is just more of the same when offering up objections based on signed agreements.

Both parties have consistently broken every damn international agreement between them they have ever signed.
Both parties have consistently accused the other of breaking those agreements.

There are large factions of both parties that do not believe peace with each other is possible or desirable.

I personally agree that there are rather obvious ulterior motives for numerous actions on the part of the neo-zionist factions within the knesset and the IDF. this particular instance is no great revelation and in fact merely another tactic in the decades long strategy to "create facts on the ground".

When leadership has been continually outmaneouvered by their mortal enemy over the decades, one has to wonder what exactly is wrong with how the palestinians pick leaders.