Should faith be respected?

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  1. Vanka

    Vanka New Member

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    I determine for myself what is sufficient supporting evidence and based on that I either respect a belief or not. I think pretty much everybody operates that way. Just because someone holds a belief is no reason to respect it. As far as the right to believe something, I think everyone has the right to believe what they want but I assert the right to think it's nuts and to say so!
     
  2. dairyair

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    Then we'll have to agree to disagree. And as long as you don't act out on your disrespect with hate or violence. No biggie.
     
  3. Incorporeal

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    You seem to have added something to what I said that was not printed. I said "I think you did an excellent job of saying what you said." I said nothing about agreeing with it or it being 'succinct'. My opinion on that subject is just that,,, an opinion.
     
  4. Incorporeal

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    That is absolutely your prerogative. Think what ever you want to think, because as long as all you are doing is thinking and expressing an opinion, then that is all you have done.

    BTW: everyone else holds that same prerogative to decide for themselves.... to include whatever they may think about your position.
     
  5. Vanka

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    Works for me. Well... I certainly wouldn't use violence against someone because of what they believe but I would say that I do indeed hate some beliefs. Kind of like hating the sin but not the sinner idea. :)
     
  6. Vanka

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    Of course! I hope in this country that's obvious to everybody. :)
     
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    What are some of those beliefs that you hate?
     
  8. Vanka

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    Well then if my post you first commented on wasn't clear then we're back to my original question to you. "Assuming you understood what I was trying to say, how would you have said it?" To that question you have not answered. You only responded by saying you were only trying to have other readers understand there were other ways in interpret my words. So if you are indeed saying it wasn't clear. Again, how would you have said it? You know you can't have this both ways. :)
     
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    Of course. I mean, unless you want to be a turdnugget, but then you would be a turdnugget.
     
  10. Vanka

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    Kind of off topic but how bout any racist belief or belief that women are inferior beings and should be beaten if they disobey their husbands? There are plenty of beliefs I would hate and I'll bet you can come up with a few yourself but again, that would be off topic.
     
  11. crank

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    of course .. what?

    could you elaborate, please.
     
  12. Vanka

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    have fun guys, I'm off to bed! :)
     
  13. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ^_-

    1. Read what was responded to. It's not my job to restate the question for you, this isn't grade school.
    2. read what part of my post you deleted from my post. It may well be applicable. ;)
     
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    nice. sweet bebe jebus loves that kinda talk :)
     
  15. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    it would be advantageous to know what, in this instance, the definition of respect is.

    I'll wager we all have different opinions on this - so anyone who'd like to pitch in ....
     
  16. Incorporeal

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    Off topic it would be, but you brought up the subject by mentioning it. I would not say that I hate those things you mentioned above, but I will say that I hold an extremely strong dislike toward those same things. Anyway, those activities are not among the things taught in the Christian religion. Now back to the topic.
     
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    how do you stand on respecting those beliefs, though, Inc?
     
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    And again, I never said that it wasn't clear. Words are ambiguos when their contextual use is uncertain. Therefore, the necessity of making known the various possible meanings of those terms. Now, did I tell a lie in saying that there are other possible ways to interpret what you did say?
     
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    re·spect (rĭ-spĕkt′)tr.v. re·spect·ed, re·spect·ing, re·spects 1. To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem.

    2. To avoid violation of or interference with: respect the speed limit.
    3. To relate or refer to; concern.

    n.1. A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. See Synonyms at regard.
    2. The state of being regarded with honor or esteem.
    3. Willingness to show consideration or appreciation.
    4. respects Polite expressions of consideration or deference: pay one's respects.
    5. A particular aspect, feature, or detail: In many respects this is an important decision.
    6. Usage Problem Relation; reference. See Usage Note at regard.



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    My preference and the manner in which I am applying the term is highlighted above.
     
  20. dairyair

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    Hate is a strong human emotion. And usually nothing good comes from hate. Even if only a belief.
     
  21. crank

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    I would agree with this.

    There are those amongst your brethren who mean #1, though. Admittedly, I don't think they realise that that is indeed, what they're asking for.
     
  22. Leo2

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    My attempt to answer the question (as I understand it - and in the absence of unanimous agreement as to definitions,) would be along these lines.

    I respect the right of everyone to hold whatever beliefs (whether they be spiritual or just concern myths - such as King Arthur,) his intellect might sustain, but that does not necessarily mean that I respect the body of those beliefs.

    I will go further to say that I consider it polite not to publicly question very personal beliefs - such as religion, or a man's regard for his family - unless agreement or observance is demanded in some form with those convictions.

    However, when any attempt to impose those beliefs upon society in general is made, I will offer active opposition - particularly when the laws of the land, or the education system, are appropriated for the purpose.
     
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    Well, I have mixed feelings about this.

    On one hand I don't hold it against people who do believe because I believe people have a right to their beliefs.

    On the other hand there's a huge amount of poor attitudes I don't like in regards to that belief that I balk at and rally against. Nonreligious people have the right to their beliefs too, but many religious people do not respect that that and will impose their beliefs onto people.
     
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    Observe what taboos? Observing people pray?
     
  25. Leo2

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    The verb 'observe' has many applications, and is not confined to the act of watching or perception. :)

    I think you will find that Rose was using it in the senses of: to show regard for by some appropriate procedure, ceremony, etc. (as in to observe Palm Sunday) as well as: to obey, comply with, or conform to (as in to observe the laws of the land).
     

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