I see that Sweden is rapidly moving into the 13th Century...

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  1. Lil Mike

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    Swedish health authorities discover every girl in one class had undergone genital mutilation: report

    Swedish health officials have revealed a stunning scale of female genital mutilation at a school where every girl in a single class had been subjected to the procedure.

    Sixty cases have been found since March at a school in Norrkoping, the Norrkopings Tidningar reported according to several media translations, including one by Britain's The Independent.

    Of the 60, nearly half of the girls had undergone the most extreme form of female circumcision, in which the clitoris and labia are cut off and the vagina is sewn up to leave just a small opening.
     
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    European tolerance for this degenerate political cult is just beyond bizarre.
     
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    From the article:

    Sweden was the first Western country to prohibit the cutting of girls' genitals, a practice most prevalent among African and Muslim populations. In 1999, Sweden banned parents from forcing female children to undergo the procedure overseas.
    "We're working to inform parents that they could face prison if they come back and their children have undergone female genital mutilation," Petra Blom Andersson, student health coordinator in Norrkoping, told the newspaper.



    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...lation-report-article-1.1838078#ixzz368mcorXJ

    Female genital mutilation is horrible- good for Sweden for trying to do something about it.
     
  4. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    50 years ago I doubt there was a single Swedish girl in the entire country who had genital mutilation done. Now it seems to be common. That's going backwards not forwards.
     
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    And that would be from:
    a) Sweden changing its government health policies or
    b) Sweden having immigrants who bring their mutilated children to Sweden?
     
  6. Lil Mike

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    From the article, it sounds like a little bit of b and a little bit of c; immigrants are either having it done on the sly in Sweden or leaving the country to have it done. Although some may first come to Sweden with the surgery already done. It's common enough that Sweden had to pass a law against it. Can you imagine if you went back in time and told the Swedes they would have to pass a law against female genital mutilation because it was a big problem? They never would believe it!

    So yes, they are going backwards.
     
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    I saw a headline somewhere that some doctor in Britain got busted for performing them, so apparently there is a network where these animals can have it done without having to go home to have it done.
     
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    What are Swedish prisons like? I would bet they aren't much of a deterrent to people who do this sort of thing.
     
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    A heck of a lot more effective than yours or ours.

    Do you imagine there are no FGM victims living in the US? Have US authorities done anything to find out?
     
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    The article states that sixty cases were found in an eastern Sweden school, which is likely to be a predominantly Muslim school with few Swedish students. There is no forced integration in Europe and this particular school may be full of Somali refugees, who do not comply with Sweden's domestic law banning female genital mutation.
     
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    How so? Sweden isn't nearly as 'diverse', nor does it share a three thousand mile border with a violent narco state, for example, nor is its population nearly as large.

    No, and yes. Start a thread on it in the U.S. forum. This is the Western Europe forum.
     
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    Lower recidivism rates and less violence and drug use in prisons. The environment they work within is obviously a factor but it's still true that their prisons are some of the most effective in the world and we could all stand to learn from them. Maybe dropping an attitude that prison is exclusively about presenting deterrents to scare people in to not committing crimes could be a start.

    The point is that if this is also an issue elsewhere, why would the nature of Sweden's prisons be relevant?
     
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    They're relevant because what works for Swedes in a Swedish culture won't work for these atavistic aliens; they're not assimilated and any suggestion that they should be assimilated is considered 'racist' or 'chauvinistic' by the usual snivelers and wrist slitters.
     
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    That still doesn't explain why you asked about Swedish prisons in particular since we've already established this isn't an issue unique to Sweden.

    Maybe you just wanted to echo chamber to validate your line of them being "soft" and therefore somehow to blame for girls currently living in Sweden having been victims of FGM at some time, somewhere. Sorry if I spoiled your fun with some inconvenient facts. Talking about assimilation is a sudden shift to yet another tack and this all suggests to me you're not really interested in discussion, just attack. I'm going to leave you to it.
     
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    Sure it does; it explains why for some cultures a Swedish criminal justice system wouldn't be the same deterrent for their criminal activities as it would be for Swedes adapted to much different standards of detention and punishment.

    Maybe you just can't deal with different observations and want to stand on a soapbox instead. Nobody 'attacked' you; maybe an anger management class would help you.
     
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    Was this legal in Sweden before they passed the legislation? Why was it needed if it wasn't? I was under the impression that child abuse and mutilation would be covered under existing laws, for some reason, as it is here.
     
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    I think without passing that specific legislation that there might have been some conflict with the law regarding male circumcision. I am not saying that they are the same- but without this law, that might have been an argument that the parents who do this to their children would make.
     
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    Ah ... makes sense.
     
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    Because it would need to open the debate into the circumcision of male babies which is a far more extreme form of mutilation than most female circumcisions is.
     
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    Male circumcision is more extreme than all but the most extreme forms of female circumcision..
     
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    Sweden has had an influx of immigrants. And they are addressing the problem. That's progress, that will reduce the instances of it being a norm in their country amongst certain minority groups.
     
  22. Lil Mike

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    I'm not sure I consider progress allowing a problem to fester that you didn't even have before and then have to play catch up to try to address it.
     
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    Any time you have immigrants, there's an issue of integrating.

    But, it's far better for the Swedes to make the practice illegal than to turn a blind eye to it.
     
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    So you're blaming immigrants for Sweden's decent into the 13th Century? Well when you import the 13th Century into the 21st, I guess you actually have to make a law then.
     
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    Quite inneffectgive actually
     

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