The fallacies of anarchy as a viable system?

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  1. Tram Law

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    Wow, thanks. I happen to have a lot of respect for Mr. Orwell. I hope you don't mind if I take that as a compliment.
     
  2. Ethereal

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    As opposed to central governments, who never do anything violent.
     
  3. Steady Pie

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    I too avoid corporate products. They're poorly made, obviously. Usually that's their plan - offer mass produced, low quality items at a low price. I'm fine with paying a bit more for something made by a small business. For instance, it's so worth it to purchase a double edge razor and some quality shaving cream over those Gillette cartridges, or organic vegetables grown on site over the GM, pesticide laced corporate alternative.

    I'm not putting down the corporate alternatives too much - large, cheap GM tomatoes are a great alternative for a shopper on a budget. I just have a different preference myself.

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    As for your intervention in the labor market, I'd prefer it if you figured out a way to meet your preference by altering property rights rather than restricting the width of those rights. What you propose is the perpetual intervention I was talking about. Perhaps you could move to syndicalist-style worker ownership of the corporation?

    Thanks for the reply.
     
  4. Stndown

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    Any time. We pretty much already have the syndicalist-style corporate cats owning everything. I wouldn't mind sharing in the profits versus paid some miniscule wage that helps to pump up the big boys bank accounts.
     
  5. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Have you noticed that the richest countries also have the highest wages for it's workers? Did you know that the soviet economy was based on the exact same assumptions you have, and that it lead to complete economic collapse and poverty for the common folk?
     
  6. Stndown

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    Do they? You must have meant to say 'some' of the highest wages, correct? For CEO's, and 'upper' upper management, perhaps. Not for everyday working stiffs. If you have to compare us to Russia, I'd say you're reaching a bit anyway.
     
  7. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    With "workers" I referred to the working class.

    You know, had you lived a bit earlier you could have gone and live in the USSR where they thought exactly the same way as you do about the economy. Wouldn't that be awesome?
     
  8. Murikawins

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    What a loser mentality lol
     
  9. Murikawins

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    You say that now, but if you can't do well in todays society, you're going to do terribly when things "come down." You'll have no mommy government to protect you
     
  10. Stndown

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    I wasn't and didn't though. I'm right here in the wild, wild west, where anything goes, and at anybody's expense. The 'working class'. Are they some specific group (outside of the groups associated with yourself) that 'other people' are a part of? In other words, you are able to distinguish between the 'working class' and the 'non working' class, do you not? You seem to be referring to 'other' people so, I'm just asking.

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    Yeah, I should learn to slice that other guy's throat for profit when he's down. That's always the winning tactic in the corporate world.

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    Well, I'll just ruthlessly take whatever i want then and worry about it later (like corporate 'winners' do).
     
  11. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Wrong. It's not "anything goes". It's a system in which contract law, private property and the freedom to make voluntary trasnactions are honoured, and which give rise to a free market system.

    The "working class" is a common term desribing those who do manual work, like factory workers. Blue-collars jobs you know. I'm suprised you didn't know that. And no, I wouldn't consider myself working class, but my family is such.
     
  12. Stndown

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    Then why would anyone other than the wealthiest amongst us, agree with your mentality? It truly is an 'us against them' world these days. Those that are born into wealth, and those that are the recipients of the abuses of those 'born into wealth', and it IS the wild wild west as far as corporate entities and their highly paid minions are concerned. They are allowed to 'get away' with abuses that would put the average person in jail for years. Tell me that doesn't happen.
     
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    Have you stopped to consider why it is that wealth confers such a huge advantage in the legal system? You probably haven't, so I'll continue to explain why. The simple answer is because there's soo many (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) laws. And why is that? Because people like you always think there needs laws regulating this and that, and you build up a huge mountain of laws that require several lawyers to dig through: something which ordinary people cannot afford, but corporations can.
     
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    It's okay, your mommy government will protect you (for a while)...but things eventually DO break down. You have to grow up someday and get yourself off the teet
     
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    There's too many 'born with silver spoons in their mouths' and not enough laws that are the problem, in my opinion.

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    Until then, I'll just be sure and suck up to somebody that commands big corporate dollars, surrender to their every whim and I'll be okay.
     

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