How do we speed up the politically irrelevancy of the far right ?

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  1. Tram Law

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    Here's my plan.

    1. Create a civil war that only a conservative can fix.

    2. Have the conservative declare martial law.

    3. Round up all the illegals, leftists and homosexuals.

    4. Completely dissolve their bodies in huge vats of acids until there's none of them left.

    5. Profit from the peace that's sure to follow.
     
  2. FAW

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    Pre programmed or not, the ranting in response to me had absolutely NOTHING to do with what I had just said, or anything relevant to OUR conversation. I called it pre programmed because it is a generic rant as opposed to addressing something that had just been said.
     
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    A falsehood, projected to be something else. I understand. The right does stuff like that all the time. I didn't go where YOU wanted me to go, and so you're not satisfied with mey response, and felt you have to interject things that weren't really there. I DO understand that thought process completely.
     
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    How do we speed up the politically irrelevancy of the far right ?

    Simple. Just let them keep going the way they have been. That is waht finally did in the fanaical left in the 1970s. The country just got fed up with the whole mess, and voted in Reagan as a backlash.

    The right is already wearing thin. The country will revert back to the center right in good time, and leave these fools sqirming like their left wing look alikes 40 years ago.
     
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    Lets recap.

    In one post you rant that companies should just take a fair profit. In another post you say that you will never create your own company because companies have to make obscene profits in order to survive. Thats where I come in and ask you a very narrowly focused question and say "I am a little confused by your words. In one sense you say that a company should simply make a "fair" profit. In another sense you seem to be saying that in order to have a company that employs people, one MUST earn obscene profits which then would go against your morals. Why cant you simply create a company that makes a "fair" profit, or are you tacitly acknowledging that what you are calling an obscene profit is actually the amount of profit that makes a business viable?".....

    Of course to this you pretend as if you are answering my question, and go on some rant about conglomerates and too big to fail.
    I respond to you that conglomerates and too big to fail have absolutely nothing to do with what I asked you.
    Then you respond again with some irrelevant nonsense about Mitt Romney
    I respond once more telling you that Mitt Romney has nothing to do with the question I asked you but yet somehow you pretend as if you are answering and I am too dumb to understand
    Thats where you bring in the statement that you simply are not going where I want it to go


    Truth is, I asked you a question that shows a distinct and irrefutable contradiction in your logic. You dont want to own up to that contradiction and instead embarked on a campaign to throw around enough sand so that no one can see. If you dont want to answer a direct question, then simply dont respond. Dont just start ranting in a nonsensical manner that has nothing to do with OUR conversation. Show at least some semblance of intellectual integrity.
     
  6. misterveritis

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    Boehner is not conservative on any level. You fail.

    But your heart is in the right place.

    Yes, I own and have read many of Hayek's books.
    He wrote it in Great Britain during WWII. Perhaps the American illustrated version you proposed was licensed for distribution in the US.
     
  7. misterveritis

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    No. But one must retain some basic beliefs in limited government. Boehner does not. Why do you believe he is conservative. What actions can you point to?
     
  8. misterveritis

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    Conservatism is rational. Without governments limited by written constitutions liberty dies. With the death of liberty poverty follows. I will choose life. I do not need to ask about your choice. You have made it clear. You have chosen tyranny.

    Do you believe you will escape somehow?

    Bwuahaha
     
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    Hmmm. Do you believe that governments must be held in check by written Constitutions so the people might remain free?
     
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    Yes, let's recap. You introduced what I believe is referred to as a 'straw man', and I didn't take the bait and run with it and so, you choose to discredit me and my views by (I guess) pretending that the corporate profiteers aren't obscene, or even do things in an obscene way. I chose not to answer the straw man, and consequently, irritated you (apparently). You must have been insulted by the word 'obscene' is all I can figure (or care to figure).
     
  11. misterveritis

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    I know a great deal about you. You are uneducated. You are a taker. You enable tyranny and love the tyrant. You despise your neighbors and want the government to plunder them for your benefit. You are probably in the bottom half of all wage earners. You do not like yourself.

    You hate people who work harder and smarter than you are able. You want to get even with us.
     
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    Interesting.

    If you and I have the same heroes, read and believe the same philosophers, use the same methods to accrue power, and even go after the same people to support us why wouldn't you believe we are fundamentally similar?

    You have been duped and brainwashed by the same leftists who once embraced Mussolini, an Italian fascist, and early on Hitler, a national socialist fascist plus Stalin, an international socialist fascist.

    Even today, on this very board nearly everyone on the left plus many of the "moderates" are just as fascistic as Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, and FDR. Like most totalitarian philosophies national socialism, fascism, Marxism-Leninism, Progressivism, European socialism, liberalism and other variants of statism are found largely on the Left.
     
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    TEA Parties have a wide variety of "core beliefs". Here is a small number from teaparty.org:

    1. Illegal aliens are here illegally.
    2. Pro-domestic employment is indispensable.
    3. A strong military is essential.
    4. Special interests must be eliminated.
    5. Gun ownership is sacred.
    6. Government must be downsized.
    7. The national budget must be balanced.
    8. Deficit spending must end.
    9. Bailout and stimulus plans are illegal.
    10. Reducing personal income taxes is a must.
    11. Reducing business income taxes is mandatory.
    12. Political offices must be available to average citizens.
    13. Intrusive government must be stopped.
    14. English as our core language is required.
    15. Traditional family values are encouraged.​

    Where do you see any call for a state religion?
    Sharia law has no place in this nation. Sharia law is an abomination to those who love freedom and liberty.

    I am also pro-life. I take it you are anti-life.

    I do not see any requirement to hate gays. Do you believe that people in a community have any right to decide what rules they shall live by? Why do you hate your neighbors?
     
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    Still no opinion on unpaid child labor working long hours in tobacco fields, huh?
     
  15. misterveritis

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    Yeah. No.

    You already know that the plunderers are on the left. What you do not appear to understand is how wrong you are. If you get your way, and you might, you will suffer for your foolishness. I would love for you to suffer but only if it is you and those who believe as you do.
     
  16. misterveritis

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    I believe Obama's flooding the nation with hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who will mysteriously find their way into towns and cities who elect Republicans, or worse, Conservatives, is intended to do as Channe is asking. By turning a hundred places from Red to Blue he guarantees a one-party rule forever.

    There is a lot of anger. I believe Obama is stoking a revolution he is prepared to crush with force.

    It is time to impeach him.
     
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    Strangle,y I can agree somewhat with that statement. I'd find it 'acceptable' if the profiteering tycoons who created this economic disaster, are around to 'enjoy' some of the impending negative consequences of the unavoidable collapse, as well. I would enjoy reading that millionaires are throwing themselves off of Wall street roofs. That would offer SOME hope that the corrupted system of the rich and powerful is coming to an end, and their big pockets of corrupt cash ultimately, did them in. SOME consequence only but, in this case, some is better than none.
     
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    You appear to be both racist and Marxist.
    Marxist equality is slavery.
     
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    ""The envy and Marxism is strong in this one. The failures point themselves out."
    . . .Was Steve Jobs rich because he took advantage of society (whatever that means) or did he provide things that make our lives better?

    Marxism appeals to the very smart because they imagine themselves as the ruling masterminds. It appeals to the failures because it promises the opportunity to get even with the rest of us. Based on the framing of your arguments I put you in the latter category."

    Nearly everybody with wealth did something that has made your life better. And you prefer the slavery of Marxist equality?

    "LOL. You have way too much time on your (white) hands. Don't you ever work?"
    You should have simply said, No. I do not work.

    We Conservatives do have a great sense of humor.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Perhaps you should reread it.
     
  20. misterveritis

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    "Why is that a problem? Why are you such a busybody? Are you part of the federal government?"
    No. I have no opinion. I don't know, nor do I care, what someone working in any job earns unless I am paying that person's wages. Then I care because my business has to earn a very large amount in order to pay for the socialism that has been foisted upon me by the likes of those who pander for your vote.

    Government makes it very hard. Our opportunity to succeed is being stripped away by the socialists in both parties. If you want to see where we are heading look to the former soviet union. They had one party government and ruled with an iron fist for the good of the people.

    I fervently hope you will experience the utopia you dream of. But I want you to do it far away from any country I live in.
     
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    "You already know that the plunderers are on the left. What you do not appear to understand is how wrong you are. If you get your way, and you might, you will suffer for your foolishness. I would love for you to suffer but only if it is you and those who believe as you do."

    Let's see, "the plunderers are on the Left". You responded, "Strangely, I can agree somewhat with that statement."
    "If you get your way, and you might, you will suffer for your foolishness." You responded, well, with piffle.

    Thanks for playing. You will suffer. I hope you are young so your suffering will last for most of your life.
     
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    If you'd bother to read before you post you'd know that I said nothing
    of the kind. You made it up. Who, if anybody, did I say should be
    central planners? Most all, what did I say about central planners?

    Go back and read before you reply to a post.
     
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    I never said he was. He is a worthless meddling moderate, not that
    there's another kind. Boehner needs to be ousted. Period.

    How did you come with me saying Boehner is a Conservative?
    I don't believe it was changed. General Motors financed the
    RTS in Look magazine in the early 40's.
     
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    I don't know if it's something he's done deliberately (I have no solid evidence on it, maybe some one can dig up some memo's on it), but it would make sense as it will guarantee the voter base to swing to the democrats in 10-15 years for possibly generations. I have to be honest and tell you I have no problem with that since I have little use for the Republican Party as it consists today. 50 years ago it might have been a different story, but they've degenerated (in my opinion) into nothing more then an obstructionist party.
     
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    I went back and looked. You are right. You said the opposite. Note that I am not the only one who misunderstood you.

    maybe you need to improve your use of white space.

    I see for you all thought revolves around the US. No problem.
    GM did not pay for the effort required to write Serfdom. Hayek wrote Serfdom long before the book came to America.
     

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