Global warming computer models confounded as Antarctic sea ice hits new record high

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kind of like Gore eh?
     
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    Why? Because they are motivated by an anti capitalist political cause. That's why. And it isn't "thousands" of scientists world wide. The "thousands" refute the politically motivated hacks.
     
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    the US is the rest of the world! :angered:

    but srsly, it was hot everywhere.
     
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    Just got this from Jo Nova

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...on-Churchills-bitter-battle-with-the-BBC.html

    Apparently the BBC has a long history of censoring views that do not "represent conventional wisdom" such as Churchill and others warnings about the dangers of the rise of fascism in Europe.

    As a censored skeptic I'm proud to be in the company of the Greatest Briton
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Greatest_Britons
     
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    OK, here ya go. Its all about revenue for government, not science or facts of science and ALL the alarmist predictions have failed to produce a single disaster. Not one.
     
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    But there have been disasters and you cant prove that those disasters weren't in some way influenced by global warming.

    You also cant prove that they weren't in some way influenced by fairies or witches either.
     
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    There were weather related disasters before the false pseudo-science of global waming, proving that that those disaters were not influenced by global warming.
     
  8. Windigo

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    Hey what do you know 60 papers just retracted from a scientific journal because of a scam peer review ring.

    http://retractionwatch.com/2014/07/...review-and-citation-ring-60-papers-retracted/
     
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    The computer models are screwed up for one reason. They are dependent upon the data provided by partisans with an agenda. garbage in, garbage out.
     
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    What makes CO2 a "greenhouse gas" is its concentration in the atmosphere. The concentration can be reduced either by cutting CO2 or by increasing O or both. So to the extent that CO2 contributes to the problem, its effect can be mitigated by increasing O.

    The first step in reforestation is to stop tree removal whose effect is not offset by planting. The planet is losing its forest cover at an astonishing pace, which could not be without consequences. Most of the destruction is in developing countries such as Brazil, which have had no incentive to police their forests. We may act to create incentives.

    Your statement that we can't plant fast enough to make a difference is speculative. You don't know that. I must again ask you not to speak authoritatively when you're not an authority. Since plants consume CO2, our relatively CO2-rich atmosphere might be conducive to rapid growth.

    I haven't said anything about the effect of emissions except to point out that there is no scientific consensus about their role in climate, fulminating politicians aside.
     
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    No. You don't have a solid understanding of how CO2 works as a greenhouse gas. O2 does not negate CO2's effects.

    One molecule of CO2 bounces back the same amount of photons no matter how many O2 molecules sound it.

    If you have 200 million tons of Co2 at .03% of the atmosphere and 200 million tons of CO2 at 100% of the atmosphere the amount of photons bounced back by CO2 is exactly the same.
     
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    Oh no......their heads are going to explode now!! :) :) :)
     
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    "Rose-colored glasses: Antarctic sea ice is the Mail on Sunday's latest global warming distraction"

    http://www.theguardian.com/environm...tic-sea-ice-latest-global-warming-distraction
     
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    **Hangs head** Yeah I am really not very good at this game
     
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    What is even more confounding is the way that Global Warming
    Freaks { including GW biased Scientist who are paid shills } continue on
    with their unbelievable agenda.Now we have Weather news of an approaching
    cool down jet stream mass,days away to further disprove this distasteful crock
    of bilge that is being forced down mankinds throat.
    Or how Dr.Roy Spence just gave his observations at the Heartland Institutes
    9th International Conference on Climate Change in Las Vegas.
    Science knows " Almost Nothing " about Global Warming !
    As he goes thru step by step how NOAA weather data has been misinterpreted
    by such phenomena as " Urban heat island effect " which I pointed out
    last week.Where in big urban dwelling like big cities,temperatures are always
    warmer due to the effect of large bldg. retaining heat and keeping ground
    temperatures higher that actual.
    Dr. Spencer also points how historic facts like how over the centuries we have
    had warming and cooling phases.
    " Every century since Roman times has experienced either global warming or
    global cooling,proving that the norm is wild change and not some grand mean
    leveling. " He also points out the necessity that CO2 plays within nature.
    In his concluding statement Dr. Spencer " went back to his point that nature
    lover's mankinds output of CO2.Saying that "at least half of the CO2 we produce
    is immediately gobbled up by the earth's vegetation."
    Look for the MSM and guys like Obama { master at smearing those he disagrees }
    to go Full Monty mode in attacking,smearing,mocking,deriding and besmirching
    Dr. Spencer at every opportuinity.Maybe even on Late Night TV.
    This is where were at folks.The total annihilation of Free Thought and being
    sane.We are being co-opted by Authoritatirans and Big Brother Bureauocrats.
     
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    Which would make Al Gore a What. A mere Donkey { Democrats mascot }
    or said Donkey's a$$.
    Either way one cares to define Al Gore ,his 2007 prediction that by 2013-2014
    ALL arctic sea ice would have melted.That gave him the impetus to also
    claim that Polar bear populations were in serious trouble.
    BOTH Monumental LIES. Lies far bigger than any mere Iceberg capable
    of sinking the World's declared Unsinkable Oceanliner.
    Al Gore The Titanic Liar.
    Or Al Gore > The Boy who Cried Heat in a crowded air conditioned Elevator.
     
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    More of you on both sides of this argument should pay more attention to this post by Windigo. When I read it, it immediately brought to mind a book I read back in the mid 90's called, "The Golem: What You Should Know about Science". It is still available on Amazon and I highly recommend it.

    It will change what you think you know about how modern science and research is carried out.
     
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    Fine, this at least is the real science and this site adheres to man made global warming.
     
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    So...creating phony parameters, in order to reach a predetermined, much sought after conclusion, might not add up with the ACTUAL, EMPIRICAL NATURAL DATA?

    Wow...who knew, right?
     

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