A question to Creationists....what ethnicity were Adam & Eve?

That's going to be a pretty long post. Give me a day and I'll get back to you.

But it's there.

I'm sure you won't agree though.

 

Well lets make it really easy for you - Lets just discuss your issue with the Brotosaurus

 

That does not explain the shift in ethnicity. That would be evolution, and creationism does not accept evolution. There is no creationist explaination to different ethnicities.

 

From:

http://www.npr.org/2012/12/09/166665795/forget-extinct-the-brontosaurus-never-even-existed

In short these two men were NOT focusing on facts, they wanted their finds to be taken as fact, and they were letting their own prejudices and bigotries influence how they made their decision.

While the mistake was discovered early on, it took seventy years to fix it because of the apathy of the scientific community at that time.

So, as you see, this is a good example of my point I was trying to make.

 

Two people discover the same dinosaur, and give it different names. Is that your idea of science getting it wrong, or Creationism being validated? How was the world different between having a Brontosaurus and an Aptosaurus, and only now having an Aptosaurus. How does evolution collapse through this change. If you did a little more reading on the subject you would discover this sort of thing very common. All that changes is not the species existed, but its name.

Your argument is akin to saying all astronomy is invalid because Pluto's formal name was changed to MPD 134340Pluto.

 

Well, first of all, there was no such thing.

Second of all I am not trying to validate creationism, only show that sometimes mistakes happen in science because of personal prejudices and other influences.

As for the rest of the questions, I have no answer for you. And I feel they are strawman.

 

I have to tell you that every time I read comments about Adam & Eve I laugh my behind off. It's so obvious that the posters have never read the story for themselves and just go off on tangents making silly comments.

Now perk up and learn something instead of pulling it out of your imagination where you get your favorite deity.

Read and comprehend Genesis chapter 2 verses 11-14, which give the location of the Garden of Eden. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 2:11-14&version=CEB;CEV;NLV;ERV;NKJV

You may eventually realize that the Garden of Eden with naked Adam & Eve was in the Middle East, surrounded by Assyria and Ethiopia (Cush in some versions). In verse 2:11 of the ERV it claims that Havilah was the land along the west coast of the Arabian peninsula and possibly, the part of Africa south of Ethiopia.

Now we know from actual history the story about the Assyrian Empire. So if Adam & Eve were the only two people what in the heck was Assyria doing there if there were no Assyrians, or Ethiopians in Ethiopians, or Arabs in Arabia?

After Cain smacked Abel upside the head he was fearful that other people would kill him for his murderous deed. He then went to the land of Nod on the east of Eden and built a city with his wife and son. Only the Chinese build cities where no one lives in them.

Anyway, after Noah's flood, which wasn't a flood of water, Nimrod waltzes into Assyrian and builds several cities, among them Nineveh (Genesis 10:8-12). https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+10:8-12&version=CEB;CEV;NLV;ERV;NKJV So Nimrod is moving all over the place, from Babylon to Assyria building cities along the way.

Now pay careful attention: there is not one word in the historical record that ever states that Assyria was ever flooded, especially over its tallest mountain.

BTW, the king of Tyre was in the Garden of Eden until he got kicked out by the Emperor. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezekiel 28:11-19&version=CEB;CEV;NLV;ERV;NKJV

According to the story Eden was in Assyria (present day Iraq).https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+27:23&version=NKJV;CEB;MSG

Therefore, based on the Biblical fairy tale, Adam & Eve most likely resembled typical Iraqis.

 

There is more to this question than mere skin color. Creationists have no answers for variations in human blood types nor genotypes. Very young children are capable of understanding that the Adam & Eve concept is a ridiculous fantasy. It's difficult for me to imagine how an adult can continue to delude themselves regarding creationism.

 

What you are doing is called projection. I like you Tram, but you have a habit of "knowing" anything that you want to know and doubting anything that you don't want to "know". It's only natural for you to assume that everyone else does the same thing that you do, but that doesn't make it true.

 

If I remember my Bible stories correctly ethnic variations didn't occur till after the tower of Babel happened. Since the garden of Eden allegedly was located between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, I would think that Adam and Eve would have been brown because of the latitude.

 

Actually, I don't assume that everybody is like me. That's what the partisans do.

It often feels like I am alone in my viewpoints.

And furthermore, doubt is not a bad thing. It goes away when I have hard, observable, verifiable, facts.

And I have never claimed to be an expert on anything. That's left up to the partisans.

And it is not projection. Just because you can't and won't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Oh, and don't like me. I'm a racist and a bigot and uneducated and unintelligent and a homophobe and an Islamophobe and all that good razzamatazz.

 

http://www.simplypsychology.org/cognitive-dissonance.html

 

Babel was just not a tower. It was also the name given to Babylon.

Adam & Eve were just the local bigwigs in a small town in Assyria. They ticked the Emperor off and he kicked them to the curb. There was no invisible celestial deity paling around with them. The God character was just a man, the ruling Emperor who controlled the Middle East.

 

Some of my best friends are uneducated racist bigots.

 

I can't answer for creationists (who can!), but the majority of Christians I know blush a little in gentle embarrassment and say it's 'not meant to be taken literally', when asked about A & E. this is, for obvious reasons, considerably worse than being a literalist - if you're of a mind to enter the pearly gates. they seem to muddle through life, vocalising their piety and allowing it inform an arrogance of presumed virtuous primacy, all the while not actually believing a word of it.

 

I was responding to a particular part of your thread and asked about adaptation. Considering that humans skin color changes over thousands of years relative to their environment, I suggested adaptation as a possible theory.

 

I like you, too, Tram. sorry!

you're clearly a clever little bigot

 

It would be a bad idea to ask those guys for financial advice because they sure don't know squat about the Bible.

 

Granted, like everyone else I couldn't read through all that rambling... but are you saying that Adam's parents, and Eve's parents were Iraqis ?
(Doesn't seem you've read the story... but they had no parents).

I realize you admitted you don't know, but it seems to me if they were "created", they could be whomever their creator wanted them to be.

As far as the OP's question, had he bothered to look up the definition of the word, there was no "ethnicity" when Adam & Eve were created and the question was a dumb one just to try and rile those who believe.... as with every single thread he creates. Which is why he doesn't even partake in them after the initial post.
In other words... "troll".

 

I asked a simple queston of Creationists.....what ethnicity were Adam & Eve?

You can't even try to answer it.

 

Apparently you DON'T remember your Bible stories correctly.....the Tower of Babel story had nothing to do with ethnicity....but as a means to explain different languages.

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But basically, you don't believe in Creationism, yes?

 

Adam and Eve had "no ethnicity"?

What does that mean, Micketto? They were white but had African lips and noses and Asian eyes.....or were they some kind of bizarre humanoid without the defining "racial characteristics" we know today???




BTW, you only criticize me...because you hate the question. Because it raises "uncomfortable" things for you that you likely never thought about....or desperately DON'T want to think about.

 

Children believe what their parents tell them to believe. If a children is brought up to believe that science is evil, and medicine was created by the devil, they will believe that.

 

It's called "Christian home-schooling".

 

aka, brainwashing
aka, indoctrination