LNP Certainly On The Nose

The 18% swing away from the LNP is hugely substantial especially in light of this being a first term in government. The Liberal/nationals seem to be upsetting people en masse with their extreme policies of austerity. Many have warned of a recession we don't have to have because of the foolish politicising of surplus budgets, which in effect are austerity measures. We are in such a unique position to be spending and positioning ourselves for the long term but the conservatives are hell bent on playing politics with our future based on their massive scaremongering and negativity of nation building policies including the price on carbon. We are not only heading backwards in the near future but our long term prospects are dim because of these silly little games played relentlessly by the right. The only credibility they will soon have is to admit they were wrong and start the process of building our nation once again with long term nation building policy. If they aren't going to change the electorate will no doubt be forcing the changes themselves!

 

You got my sentiment...
However, is Labor ready? What sort of future do we see ourselves in? Do we want to be part of the world community, or do we think we can outsmart and outlive all others with the course, Abbott and his henchmen has given? Do we want to stay self centered, or do we participate in global issues?
Regards

 

I'm going to sound like a broken record but, its Union and media BS which has pushed sentiment to the left in QLD. I don't think the LNP done anything wrong. Qld just tends to be a 'worker' type of state with heavy union allegiance and whingy housewives who puppet the left BS, and its been non-stop up here and completely rubbish and misleading - basically full of lies and liars.

They are more concerned about being part of the 'pack' go Queeenslander, then using their brains to see through the spin and fake emotions. I should know, Im one of them....

Beattie's incompetance slowly drove the state down, and Anna Bligh opened the window so the remains could blow away..... she sold off heaps of state asset's and they together wasted billions.... much like the federal ALP it seems this union DNA makes for incompetent political skills. But, so long as the Union's tell the good workers what the correct thing is to think, then a lot of Queenslanders will sleep at night feeling like they are good little workers doing the right thing. In fact, they'll even tell you there is no need for any other party then the ALP

Just mostly a sad misinformed bunch who take out their anger at anything which disagree's with them, and the end result is it means only that perspective dominates the news cycle and after awhile its the only story that is heard, and by attrition of being fed lies the rest of us feel bullied into agreeing with them

We all know how bullying works, the weak are the first to side with the bully

 

You, sound like a broken record, never ... it's a conservative trait, a conservative trait ... ah ah ah .. it is a conservative trait.

 

That was deep and meaningful, by a certain standard. The truth is that the Beatty / Bligh "governments" sent QLD down the gurgler during a record boom period. The Traveston Crossing Dam was just one blaringly obvious example of criminal incompetence. It would be incomprehensible than anyone could be so stupid, without the realisation that the ALP doesn't actually govern in their own right. The ALP receives it`s instructions from union power brokers, behind closed doors.

 

Another beauty is the Desalination plant at Tugun, holy smoke what a waste of QLDers money, over a billion $, ran for less then two years and is now rusting away not being used. And the Union's here complain about the cost cutting measures the LNP put in place to try and save the budget LOL

 

All because the Labor Government of the day accepted tenders using stainless steel piping instead of ceramic...
as we all know (except the Labor Go...) ceramic piping will not rust....aah well....but s.s. is cheaper...aah well
And the plant is still costing hundreds of thousands to maintain...even though not in use.....aah well...

 

I find it amazing that you are complaining about the government building a desalination plant when only a few years ago practically the whole country was in severe drought.

 

I dont think it was ever intended to serve the whole country, but at that cost it blinking well should have!@! j/k
Over a billion dollar's to chase the down trend on a cyclical phenomena does not sound smart to me, perhaps it kept the Union's and bluecollar workers happy but still not efficient use of valuable dollars. In isolation bad ideas for good reasons can be managed, but the QLD ALP (indeed federal ALP too) seem to only have bad ideas done bad.

 

Qld isn't a worker's state. Probably hasn't been since Red Ted (a good Adelaide boy). I would reckon that workers in Qld get a pretty crappy deal when it comes to working rights, bit like the NT which is also bloody hopeless on the issue. Qld is intensely conservative, possibly even reactionary. The irony is that the Australian labour movement was born in Qld.

 

I suppose sending 60 Federal police over to the Ukraine without an invitation at tax payers expense, is doing something good for the tax payers too? I wonder "WHO" decided on that arbitrary number of 60?

What are the 60 going to be doing over there - standing around with their hands in their pockets looking stupid. Oh wait, I forgot there might be a side trip for Bishop and these 60 federal police to Scotland for the games.

Jesus, no wonder the nick-name by politicians for the general pubic is "mushroom".

 

M2, I think it is clear that policy has to be the measure and I can't help but see that conservative politics has been about simply winning government with brutal negativity and propaganda that precariously leaves Australia in a no win situation due to blocking all positive policy out of spite. I think in comparison to what the LNP are giving us in recent times any registered party would provide better direction to our future. The LNP across the country were in opposition for very extended periods of time that they had to attempt a strategy to roll Labor, unfortunately they used ploys such as relentless negativity, which is looking like biting them in the ass and most likely sending them back to extended periods of opposition again. Surely they'll learn that their policies are not suitable for Australians and certainly not suitable for our long term prospects.

 

Seriously????

I can think of a million other wastes of money other than this, to help find closure for fellow Australians.

Bad taste dude.

 

Their "extreme policies of austerity" are comical at best. They don't even slow the growth of government, they slice off a small portion of the increase.

They're just another establishment government.

 

I mostly agree,
what I miss is a solid course for our future, not only participating in one or another ETS and Carbon Tax, but a solid no lie clear as possible way which we are heading,
regards

 

The Abbott government has - so far -failed spectacularly as a government. It's not an original observation to note that they're still in opposition mode. They're stuck and we're suffering because of it. Any policy that they happen to produce is actually not theirs but has been produced for them by their supporters, big business. Fortunately for the rest of us the government can't break out of opposition mode and begin to govern. I say fortunately because big business doesn't have anyone's interest at heart except its own.

The Abbott government needed to have control of both houses for it to get anything through. It is not capable of negotiation, in that opposition mode it's just attack, attack, attack. That doesn't work in a bi-cameral system. Newman can get away with it in Qld because of his majority and no upper house, Abbott is not in such a position.

One example of politics and not policy. The Royal Commission into alleged corruption in trades unions. It could have been a very useful inquiry, a positive inquiry which would have had the capability to help decent union officials to root out the corruption and malpractice that affects some unions. Instead it is being used as an attack dog by the government to get at all unions and of course the ALP, the Opposition. It will just be about smear instead of digging out corruption. Of course if it went for corrupt unions then it would also have to go for corrupt businesses and corrupt politicians and others involved. That won't happen. It will just be a smear and that doesn't help anyone.

 

Oh, come on Aussie. All the deceased were gone before the Australian s even got access to the site, but Abbott and Bishop keep telling us they are going there to make sure all the bodies are recovered. It takes 60 Federal police to ensure this happens? I can see them now all standing around in the field with their hands in their pockets, kicking dirt and counting the days before heading to Scotland for a nice little junket.

This has nothing to do with getting closure for fellow Australians, and I'm surprise you even attempted to push that transparent agenda and propaganda. This is just Australian puppets trying to push an American agenda on the world stage, whereby they hope some of praise will rub off onto them. Bishops had her ugly beak on TV so much, the sight & sound of her is making me cringe.

Saw Bishop last night with a black hat and suit on, and she look like an old black-widow spider. Never thought I would say this, but the more bishop opens her mouth, the more she makes Gillard look intelligent & competent.

 

Firstly they are not there to recover bodies, as you said, they are already gone. They never professed that that was the task of the federal police, somehow I think you know this, but spin it whichever way you wish to suit your argument. The only thing that I have seen or read regarding the federal police issued by either Bishop or Abbott is that they are there to gather whatever evidence remains. I would imagine that this would then be collated for further use in the International Court as I again would imagine that charges would be sought for those that perpetrated such a vile act......... if ever possible.

I am not sure that the families of those that died would agree with your "transparency theory", even if it were to be correct. For them it is their government fighting for them. To you it may be a charade, perhaps one day you yourself may be clambering on to such a "transparent agenda" to ease the pain and torment of trying to find answers for such tragic loss.

Your negativity is eating away at your soul my friend.

 

With all due respect Aussie, Abbott admitted to the press, he was sending 190 armed Federal police and an unknown number of ADF personnel to "recover bodies" and evidence from the site.

Oh, I remember now. Abbott told us not to believe anything he say's unless its written down on paper - is that what you mean?

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...n-to-ukraine-branded-nuts-20140726-3cm8r.html

http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2014/07/27/federal-police-sent-mh17-crash-site/

Not sure what media you are reading, or which Tony Abbott you are listening too, but get the feeling you might be trying to portray "your" agenda on this, and not the facts.

I feel sad for the innocet people who lost their lives in this tragedy, and the people they left behind. But there is no excuse for Abbott and Bishop to have opened their their big-mouths and accused Russia of this crime on the prompting and encouragment of the USA. This act of manipulation and pupperty by the USA towards Australia has placed us in an incredible vulnerable position and situation. Whereby, Australia's interference in this matter is now even being criticized by other ER countries. Once again, Australia has looked stupid and incompete on the world stage, and we find ourselves alone in the world, and at the control and mercy of the ruthless USA. Bishop & Abbott know they have acted like a pair of immature clowns, and now want to put a spin on their incompetence and stupidity, by turning their "fake" efforts into compassion and empathy for the dead.

This has never been about innocent people being killed. Its been about the USA manipulating their puppet nations into bad-mouthing Russia, because Russia; China; Turkey and a few other countries joined forces and signed agreements to move away from the US petrodollar. The USA think that if they can crash or damage Russia's economy, then Russia will not be able to continue with China against the petrodollar.

If you think my negativity is eating away at my soul, then those pair of bastards wouldn't have a soul left.

Maybe Bishop & Abbott should have read this link before opening their big-mouths, and looking like a pair of transparent US puppets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Maybe they should have read this link also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident

The USA is not some benign loving old grandmother giving way lollies and sweet to children, as they would like some naive people to believe.

 

It's another example of the style of conservative politics in this country. You say something enough, you'll have people blindly believing it and consequently repeating it and wallah, you've got everyone convinced. Their attack on unions and their place in society is an example.

 

YES the ALP does not lie, what about the GREENS

 

The ETS and carbon tax was nothing more than a politician/Government created scam for them to make money and accomplish nothing, which is what they are doing. Politicians know the only real way to stop Carbon emissions, is for the people themselves to become active and involved. People, and businesses have to become involved and decide to go solar themselves for it to work.

Please tell me how some fat-arse in a bank buying and selling carbon credits (pollution) on paper, is REALLY going to stop pollution? It just means the people buying and selling the paper pollution will transfer the cost of buying and selling the paper pollution onto the consumer - you and me, and how will that be an incentive for them to stop polluting when its cost them nothing?

You see they will buy carbon credits that will allow them to pollute, and then transfer the costs of buying those credits to pollute onto the consumer. So they haven't stopped polluting and haven't lost money, but we have, by paying for their carbon credits, when they raise the prices of their products.

Its all just been a bloody scam to shake down the tax payers again.

 

I guess we should exempt the greens from accusations of being liars. One really needs to actually know what the truth is, before one can technically be termed a liar for quoting untruths.

 

True, but really I would have thought ten year olds know the difference they appear older. Clearly mentally challenged...

 

It`s embarrassing to see the narrow minded, selectively simplistic rot they come out with. It`s an insult to the intelligence of the electorate, and yet, there are those who fall for it. Dumb.