Why are Americans So Pro Israel

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Socialism Works, Jul 15, 2014.

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Why are Americans so Pro-Israel

  1. Strong Jewish lobby in Washington

    28 vote(s)
    41.8%
  2. Guilt about the Holocaust

    9 vote(s)
    13.4%
  3. Revenge on Arabs for 9/11

    7 vote(s)
    10.4%
  4. Other

    40 vote(s)
    59.7%
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  1. CJtheModerate

    CJtheModerate New Member

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    This thread has really been derailed.
     
  2. J0NAH

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    idont think they are but there you go, we all have opinions. you need to frame your question better, maybe; why are americans more pro - israel than europeans?



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    denial is not a positive trait. you should visit that website, it would be good for you.
     
  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it's not so much pro-Israel, but pro-civilized culture... the east needs more of that
     
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    civilized people will always reject Hamas.
     
  5. misterveritis

    misterveritis Banned

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    Our crazy religious people build hospitals. Theirs cut off heads...great moral equivalence. Are you afraid of hospitals?
     
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    sparquelito Banned at Members Request

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    I worked with a great number of nation's delegates when I was serving in the field of foreign military sales.

    I really enjoyed working with the Brits, the Australians, the Japanese, the Emirates, and the representatives from France, Norway, Denmark, and The Netherlands.

    The Saudis were really rude and arrogant.
    I would not care to associate with them any longer, truth be told.

    The Israelis that I served with were a cut-above though. Awesome people.
    They were kind, professional, honest, and they gave as much as they took.
    I have great affection for them to this day.

    I support Israel, even if this morally-bankrupt, thoroughly-useless, scumbag politician/sorry-excuse of a US President does not.
     
  7. Sir Thaddeus

    Sir Thaddeus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hello,

    Please keep post on topic and avoid personal attacks against other members.

    Thank You
     
  8. Margot2

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    How long were you in Saudi Arabia?
     
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    Six months, on and off.

    Later on, it was a matter of meeting with them here in the US, during program management reviews.

    The common Saudi men and women, and the wandering Bedouins I really liked.
    I have no problem with them whatsoever.

    The fellows from the Saudi government and the Saudi military that I dealt with;
    not so much.

    I felt a great deal of animosity from them, and it was completely undeserved.
    I was there to help them, and to assist them in getting the best deal possible from our country.
     
  10. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    Undeserved? You never thought for one minute that it could have been you that was the reason for their less than affectionate attention? Do you honestly believe that Saudi's like americans? maybe its just a marriage of convenience given that Saudis and Americans have completely opposite moral values.
     
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    Yes.. the Saudis do like Americans.. Have you ever spent time there? They have been friendly and hospitable towards Americans since the late 1930s.
     
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    6 months in the military?? I spent nearly two decades there.. and I know both commoners and royalty.. as well as a few military officers. Never had any animosity from them.. You do realize that there are currently 40,000 Americans living and working in Arabia who like it.
     
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    Iwas referring to individuals. Saudis are robots and must like anybody who is american by default no matter how ignorant they are???

    ifind it a marriage of convenience. like that of Dubai. These guys are bricking it, because when the other muslims catch them, its all gonna hit the fan.
     
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    What do you mean by individuals?

    Do you know many Saudis.. Did you see them and talk with them every day or work with them, or eat with them or laugh with them?
     
  15. J0NAH

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    iknow that they love americans because you just said they do and you know saudis intimately. ialso know that many many many muslims despise america, kind of diametric opposites, doesnt bode well for the future. Unless of course there is some kind of masterplan which im fairly certain that you are not privvy to.
     
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    I know the Saudis fairly well and also the SAG.

    The problems with Muslims largely stem from our own hypocrisy..
     
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    youre a muslim?
     
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    You were not there, Jonah.
    I was.

    If you would like to engage in a more detailed conversation regarding the circumstances of these meetings and negotiations, I will gladly comply.
    We can either do it right here on this public forum, or we can PM each other.
    Or, if you like you can email me at mail@john.sparkman.name

    I am proud of my work, and I stand behind everything I post here on the internet.
     
  19. sparquelito

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    No, dear.
    I spent 26 years in the active military, and worked many years beyond that.

    I am happy to hear that YOUR experiences with the senior Foreign Military Sales representatives for the Royal Saudis were positive and favorable.

    Mine were not.

    If you would like to discuss this further, I am available any time.
    mail@john.sparkman.name
     
  20. Margot2

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    No.. a WASP and a Christian........

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    How many of those years did you spend in Saudi Arabia?
     
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    exactly, it's not so much support for Israel, but more a show of no support for Hamas
     
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    One word.... BRAINWASHED
     
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    I wonder if Americans know that the US turned away ships of Jewish refugees in the run up to WW2???
     
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    They didn't share in the Zionist beliefs, so they had to be sent back to Europe so they could meet their fate Lord Rothschild had arranged for them.
     
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    Sorry.. I don't understand what you wrote.
     

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