Part 20 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    No games for me just you. You have perfectly illustrated that you will separate good and evil souls and that in your spirit world it is your rule that counts and all the rest of the souls must submit to your rule typical of man god and if your spirit world is make believe than it is none existence and to answer your original question it will only be Heaven Purgatory, Hell or Limbo and you will have to chose from your own free will Heaven for eternal happiness, Hell for eternal suffering, Purgatory for salvation or limbo trap in this world restless and haunting. What is surprising is that even though it is clear that Heaven is eternal happiness you chose not even if it is according to you a make believe.
     
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    Cambrian explosion go beyond physical finds such as bones it goes further than that.
    How many human-apes or ape-human have been discovered (Yeti)?
     
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    Ive already stated I am choosing none of your options. Are you saying someone will force me to do something against my will wan?
     
  4. WanRen

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    So chimps are not humans and possess no human intelligence thanks my wait is over.
    Maybe you are correct I mistake you with so many atheist that claim human evolve from apes or that apes are more intelligent than humans. Wait a minute are you not also claiming that apes are more intelligent than humans or that humans evolved from apes? What is so hard for you to understand that there is no such thing as Great Ape. Do you even know what this great ape look like? For all you know it could be Great Human? That term Great Ape was created by early white scientist that lack any modern scientific knowledge they were mixing fiction and science.
    A simple experiment that prove chimps or apes are not as intelligent as humans or can evolved to become humans with out human intervention.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...nary-experiment-chimp-raised-human-child.html

    Project Nim began in November 1973 with Nim’s birth at a primate research centre in Oklahoma. He spent just a few days in the arms of his real mother before she was knocked out with a tranquilliser dart and her screaming baby was handed straight to his delighted new, human, mother.

    By the way Nim was taken away by force from her natural habitat and mother chimp = human intervention.
     
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    This same story is reported in this book:

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  6. WanRen

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    If he does not want to go to either then he stay where he is it is his choice to go to the nice pit, bad pit or stay put.
    How can something be forced when you are the one deciding. How many heaven or hell do you want to satisfy your choice?
    I already pointed out to you in Genesis 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. No hell was created
    Later when Lucifer decided to become the anti God, hell came about for the evil ones.
    Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels
     
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    Have you read the Cambrian explosion?
     
  8. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    According to your graphics Adam is barely recognizable as a humanoid so why should humanity get stuck forever with the "sins" of a creature that wasn't even a real human?
     
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    are you going to answer this question, WanRen?
     
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    is this a joke? seriously, is it?

    if, on the off chance it isn't, I recommend you do a brief study of life for the average peasant (given 99% of humans were not nobility at that time, the chances are you'd have been a peasant yourself) in the 18th century or before.

    the only saving we need is from those who would have us return to such dark times.
     
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    quick question ... how did the boat 'float' when the entirety of the surface of this flood water would have been solid ice (the freezing point for water being considerably lower than even a modest sized mountain - let alone the highest)? and how did noah and his crew breathe at that altitude?
     
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    Isn't God marvelous. He accommodated for the needs of the people and the animals. After all, He is omnipotent and those laws of physics mean nothing to Him.
     
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    He isn't? I think He is.
     
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    And where is that choice with us and God? Where is our third choice to opt out of the system?

    Yes, hell came about... by God creating it.
     
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    one 'god did it with magic' and a green salad for the gent. gotcha.

    - - - Updated - - -

    note our theists furiously ignoring this question :p
     
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    Ever hear of a unilateral contract? Well, that is the sort of contract that was established in the Garden of Eden. It was man who violated the terms of the contract... Not God. I don't believe that there was a 'third choice' contained in that contractual arrangement. Was there supposed to be one? Yes God created 'hell'. After all, all that was created was created by God. So, do you have a problem with the thought of God creating a place to keep those who voluntarily defy His Sovereignty? All He did is create a means of living up to one of His promises. One of about 700+ that are mentioned in the "Bible".
     
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    If you want to call it 'magic' that is entirely your prerogative. As for the closing comment... better look again.
     
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    Yes I do know what a Great Ape looks like. Here are 4 examples.

    Here is a Great Ape:

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    And another Great Ape:

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    And another Great Ape:

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    And another Great Ape:

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    See (link) Chromosome 2 (human) is solid evidence of Evolution and that human, chimps, orangutans and gorillas all share common ancestor. See, this evidence held up in a court of law in (link) Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District, while creationism could not. That is why Evolution is taught in schools and in Maryland and Creationism not.



    There was no genetic tinkering involved. Hence your accusation of scientists trying to create chimpanzees that is smarter than humans is nothing but an unfounded fear.
     
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    Strange. I see no similarities between the characters of the first photo and the characters in the other photos. Optometry is another precious field of science.

     
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    a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet. or a turd as foul.

    calling it something pompous and lofty sounding won't unmagic it, Inc.
     
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    Ignorance of what a Great Ape is, wont allow you to see.
     
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    You mean you don't like my answer that you or others like you who claim to be a good person God will welcome you in Heaven when you die and that you will not accept that you would prefer to be in hell or purgatory? No one is forcing you against your will I have answer already but you can't seem to make up your mind for sure you are clear to say you don't want to be in Heaven, Hell or Purgatory so your only place is limbo your will not God's. Unless you are demanding that God create your personal heaven base on your design now that would be forcing God against free His will.
     
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    The third choice is from your own free will rejecting God's welcoming you to Heaven.
    Hell came about to house the evil after they rejected Heaven.
    Maybe God will create another in between for souls like you who does not want to be in Heaven, Purgatory or Hell it will probably be called Matrix try asking God and He might grant you your wish.
     
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    Where are the rest of humans?
    12-of-the-DNA-Differs-Amongst-Human-Races-and-Populations-2.jpg
    So what does great ape look like? You posted photos of white people and some apes which one of them is the great ape? I don't see a great ape I see a chimp, a gorilla, an orangutan and human I will wait for your great ape photo ok. By the way the great ape story that was created by early white scientist is not what other none white races follow they don't believe their race evolved from some great ape or from ape.
    What unfounded fear? Fear that humans are interfering with nature? fear that humans are practicing animal slavery? You ignore that Nim was forcibly taken away from her natural mother is this what you mean apes are more intelligent than humans that apes have no capability to invent tranquilizers that they can use on humans or bullets to protect themselves against humans?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...nary-experiment-chimp-raised-human-child.html

    Project Nim began in November 1973 with Nim’s birth at a primate research centre in Oklahoma. He spent just a few days in the arms of his real mother before she was knocked out with a tranquilliser dart and her screaming baby was handed straight to his delighted new, human, mother.
     
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    Ignorance of what a man and woman is NOT, will not allow you to see any difference between them.
     
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