Part 20 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Not true, I haven't run from any questions, I'm still here answering questions am I not?

Furthermore I have answered the questions that trevor posted above.

There is absolutely no question that can't be answered of course provided they are not incoherent, I mean how could I answer questions that are incoherent?...you're only going to get answers that are also incoherent...lol

 

The human line evolved before the other great apes did, That's why humans are the most advanced primates. We have been at it longer. The chimps are the second most advanced. If we had allowed them to develop they would eventually evolve into a more sophisticated species. But humans will soon exterminate all of the other primates.

 

If you pour 3 fluid ounces of water into a 12 fluid ounce glass...will it overflow onto the counter?

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If you pour 3 fluid ounces of water into a 12 fluid ounce glass...will it overflow onto the counter?

 

Well that rather makes us equal. You don't like the our answers which are just as valid as yours. I remind you again. Christianity would not exist if it were not for Judaism. This believes in a place where the soul goes to consider its life and acknowledge its faults. Not Hell. A god who created a faulty being and then condemns him to eternal hell because he is faulty?

 

That would depend on the angle at which the 12 fluid ounce glass is positioned and the diameter of the glass. If that angle is less than 35 degrees to the surface of the table, then there will be some spillage.

 

He will only answer if he rewrites it to fit his strawman otherwise he states he already answered it and refers you to an earlier response containing a strawman and claims of things you said that you never did.

 

All 4 are Great Apes. I'm not sure why is this is so difficult for you to understand.

And no, the 'Great Ape story' is the truth, not a story, as Evidence of Human Chromosome 2. I notice you keep ignoring this so I will remind of of my quote:

There is no genetic tinkering going on. You simply have an unfounded fear that scientists are trying to create species smarter than our own. Layoff the Hollywood sci-fi dude.

 

A man and a woman is not part of the (link)Lacertilia (but if you go back far enough, you will find a common ancestor due to Evolution) family. But we are part of the Great Ape Family, whether or not you like it, or that silly book written by sheep herders from 2K years ago likes it or not.

 

Of course I got it from reading the gospels. As I said: get a synopsis in which you can read the three synoptic gospels next to each other. You’d have to be blind not to notice the contradictions I mentioned. And that does not even include John, which contradicts the synoptic gospels even more than they contradict each other (concerning the time of crucifixion for example).

As I said: there’s no reason to get freaked out about this. If you ask different people what they remember about events that happened decades ago they are bound to contradict each other in some details. That doesn’t mean the events never took place. Also the gospels were never meant to be historical accounts as we understand them today. As this pastor puts it:

“Is John deceiving us by manipulating the chronology of events? Not at all, since his concern was not to record a historical narrative of events or a chronological biography of Jesus but rather was interested in conveying the meaning of the events of the death and Resurrection of Jesus. In this way, the Gospels can be thought of as being more like portraits than photographs: in a portrait, the artist puts a little bit of him/herself into the finished product.”
http://bustedhalo.com/questionbox/h...er-but-john-has-him-crucified-on-the-passover

Well, quite apparently you are one, otherwise you would not need to behave like an ostrich here.

Fundamentalists in general sprang up rather late in Christianity, mostly in the US in the beginning of the 20th century as a reaction to findings of modern Bible Studies, that most other Christian Churches - including even the Roman Catholic one - had no problems in embracing.

No Scripture bending is necessary to sustain my view of Scripture. And I told you before that according to the Gospel of John the Word of God is Jesus Christ. Where do you find me disrespecting Christ?

If you don’t want to tell me how Judas died (which is but one of the very concrete examples of Biblical contradictions I already mentioned), maybe you can tell me whether I should answer a fool according to his folly (Proverbs 26:5) or not (Proverbs 26:4).

The page I linked you to pretty much mirrored New Testament Studies as taught in any accredited university, including the Theological Faculty that I once studied in. If – as you said - you read the New Testament in its original Greek, you may have made use of one of its Institute’s fruits of labour: the “Novum Testamentum Graece” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novum_Testamentum_Graece).

Most of my former fellow-students of theology are pastors or teachers of Protestant religion now. None of them considers the fundamentalists’ doctrine of Biblical inerrancy valid, let alone necessary for our salvation.

 

I was at that "no contradictions" business.

You have a ripe one, there.

 

Less slippery obfuscation, more answering the question ...

Is there a third option, or are we forced to choose one of two - with one being eternal torture, therefore leaves no choice at all. Yes or no? third option, or god forcing us?

 

His avoidance tactics are incredibly tedious.

 

I have no problem with your answer but you have problem with your own answer and question.
Christianity have no problem with Judaism it is Judaism that has problem with Christianity we understand and acknowledge the tradition and history of Judaism and Christianity but Judaism does not acknowledge the history, tradition and prophecy of Judaism.
God created a none faulty and perfect sphere or place called Heaven and later to meet the needs of Satan He created a perfect place for his kind called Hell. It is sad that atheist who claim to be good people have openly acknowledge that when they die they will not accept God's offer for them to enter Heaven And they can't make up their mind if they believe their is lie after death if they truly believe there is no life after death the human soul disappeared totally then I guess that is what it is they don't have to worry about R.I.P.?

 

I see that you don't like your own question too.

 

You know that there are more than four humans consist of brown, white, yellow and black races while apes consist of gorillas, chimps, and organgutan so you are saying that all evolved according to many great apes? I thought you said one single Great Ape? So which one of them is the real Great Ape please step forward?
Chromosome has nothing to do with the great ape the great ape terminology was initiated long time ago base on physical similarities now that modern science is learning that humans evolved separate from the apes that is why it has been classified separately from the ape group and that both humans and apes evolved from one single source and that source is God "created them all according to their own kind" and today's science without directly agreeing with the Bible has evidence to show that is the case.
Cambrian Explosion.
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evo101/VIIB1cCambrian.shtml

Around 530 million years ago, a wide variety of animals burst onto the evolutionary scene in an event known as the Cambrian explosion. In perhaps as few as 10 million years, marine animals evolved most of the basic body forms that we observe in modern groups. Among the organisms preserved in fossils from this time are relatives of crustaceans and starfish, sponges, mollusks, worms, chordates, and algae, exemplified by these taxa from the Burgess Shale.

This is what the Great Ape look like


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...nary-experiment-chimp-raised-human-child.html
Project Nim began in November 1973 with Nim’s birth at a primate research centre in Oklahoma. He spent just a few days in the arms of his real mother before she was knocked out with a tranquilliser dart and her screaming baby was handed straight to his delighted new, human, mother.

Again you continue to ignore the fact how humans are forcibly interfering with the apes by uprooting them from their natural habitat to try to force them to become humans in fact humans have more success with humanizing dogs and cats.
Aside from genome science and cloning there is also now the science of DNA modern scientist are now able to understand DNA more than ever including extracting any fossilized DNA.
Hollywood science fiction is inspired by modern science and through Hollywood science is able to make things a reality.

 

Just because one decides the God in YOUR bible(s) cannot exist as written...does not mean someone feels this way about ALL Gods, or life after death.

 

You tried to link the Cambran explosion....to the rise of humans and apes.

Do you have ONE fossil of either a human or even an ape...that dates back to the Cambrian Explosion?

Or were you just pulling stuff out of ....somewhere.... and flinging it and hoping it sticks?

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Do you actually believe there were NO abortions before Roe v. Wade?!?!?!?

 

No obfuscation the answer is very clear.
Yes there is third option allow satan to seize your soul or stay within the twilight zone called paranormal world or sphere.
One for eternal torture and you forgot or maybe just can not say it the other eternal happiness called Heaven that you have clearly said you will reject it.
God is not forcing you as I have said base on your claim that you are a good person God will surely welcome you in Heaven when you die but you freely rejected that so your only option is hell or twilight zone.
So again listen very carefully God is not forcing you to chose you have the free will to chose it is your own free soul that chose to reject Heaven not God's choice.
And you can always ask God to create another sphere to suite your taste maybe God will listen and create your private heaven called the matrix.

 

Every religion believe there is life after death.
So far you have not been very definite or clear do you believe there is life after death and if there is there an equivalent of heaven and hell for atheist or for your kind of belief?

 

Of course I have not been clear "So Far"...I was not asked a question to be clear ABOUT. However, as a question has now been asked I will clearly and very definately answer it.

I do not know...nor do I pretend to.

The Heaven and Hell Christians believe in most likely do not exists for anyone...Atheist, Christian, Muslim, or Extra terrestrial sludge creature. They are manmade constructs often used to compel humans into a belief.

"In ancient Babylonian and Assyrian beliefs the “nether world . . . is pictured as a place full of horrors, and is presided over by gods and demons of great strength and fierceness.” (The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, Boston, 1898, Morris Jastrow, Jr., p. 581) Early evidence of the fiery aspect of Christendom’s hell is found in the religion of ancient Egypt. (The Book of the Dead, New Hyde Park, N.Y., 1960, with introduction by E. A. Wallis Budge, pp. 144, 149, 151, 153, 161) Buddhism, which dates back to the 6th century B.C.E., in time came to feature both hot and cold hells. (The Encyclopedia Americana, 1977, Vol. 14, p. 6 Depictions of hell portrayed in Catholic churches in Italy have been traced to Etruscan roots.—La civiltà etrusca (Milan, 1979), Werner Keller, p. 389.
But the real roots of this God-dishonoring doctrine go much deeper. The fiendish concepts associated with a hell of torment slander God and originate with the chief slanderer of God (the Devil, which name means “Slanderer&#8221, the one whom Jesus Christ called “the father of the lie.”—John 8:44. "

 

But Christianity does have a problem with Judaism. Judaism does not accept that Jesus was Gods Son. Judaism will tell you that the prophesies of the Tanakh are for them, and their Messiah. Whatever you like to think Christianity and Islam are dreamed up offshoots of Judaism. If they weren't they would have no reason to use the Tanakh to bolster their religions.

 

You see stones... the highlighted and emphasized text above is a good example of why I cannot allow things you say on this forum to be anything near a compelling factor in me changing my views. Let me ask you this. How long have you been believing that books can like something??

 

The PF Religion Forum's own Bill Clinton.

"It depends on what the definition of 'is' is?"

 

Strange ability you are desiring to display. In my words (which you quoted) there is no mention of definitions of any word. Nor is there any mention of Bill Clinton. Are you sure you are writing in the right thread?

 

I like all my questions or I wouldnt ask them. I have reduced every question to this point, the point where you evade, strawman or say Ive said things I havent. After 20 threads of continuos loss, I would question why my faith cant answer remedial questions if I were you. I know you wont but I woukd.
Next question.....from my remedial section. Where is heaven and where is hell? Exactly.