The price of democracy for Ukraine

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  1. CherryPanda

    CherryPanda Banned

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    Lots of people are following the events in Ukraine trying to picture the real situation. And the main problem is that most of the media provide very subjective information, it’s hard to understand what is really going on. What is more, many people start using black-and-white logic which can be a misleading, for no one is completely white.
    I think, this is especially true for Petro Poroshenko, the new president of Ukraine. We see him as a new democratic leader elected after some sort of revolution. What if he is not that good as it seems? I just made some reading on the situation in the region and come up with certain conclusions. =)
    So, the experts believe that all negotiations of the new government with the representatives of Novorossiya, even with the involvement of international committees, are purely formal. They are conducted just to show the respect for the Western peace supporters. And in fact, the new government is not interested in these negotiations at all. It’s the only reasonable explanation of why Kiev authorities allocate about a billion dollars from the Reserve Fund to perform a punitive operation.
    President Poroshenko obviously wants to end “the battle phase” as soon as possible, in August. This plays a crucial role for him. He wants to “jumpstart” the campaign for the early elections to Verhovnaja Rada (the parliament of Ukraine) in the end of September.
    It’s clear that the election campaign won’t be seen as legitimate if it does not involve Donbass region, so the Kiev authorities plan to clean up Donetsk and Lugansk regions by the end of September, both militarily and politically. It means that the new law "On countering and overcoming separatism" would be used as an effective tool against political opponents, and the Ukrainian leader plans to "filter out" candidates for the Verkhovnaja Rada and local councils. So the government will leave only candidates supporting "national-oriented pro-European course". Simultaneously, the program of “destroying separatists” will be implemented in Donbass, implying destruction and “squeezing” every disloyal person out of the region.
    No doubt that Donbass region is vital for Poroshenko to stay in power. This means that, in spite of thousands of Ukrainian civilians and soldiers killed, he will carry on The Civil War, treading more victims under foot.
     
  2. John stromer

    John stromer New Member

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    Poroshenko is a puppet, and this is not about democracy. It is about resources and power.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And Ukraine is not a real country, just a resource-rich province of Russia.
     
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    elf_ua Banned at Members Request

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    the first thing what Poroshenko did was armistice for a several days which was offended by russian terrorists
     
  5. Pronin24

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    That was an ultimatum, not armistice. Read all points of that ultimatum, it was designed for pleasing the Maidans. Poroshenko wanted to defeat those rebels in the east no matter what.
     
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    And the resources are in the Donbas.:oldman:
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was just so Poroshenko could regroup his forces...which he did. Look he said right from the beginning that he will not negotiate. He prefers killing the civilians in the Donbas, and the youth of Western Ukraine as well. The only time there will be peace, is when his and Yats children have to serve. Until then forget it, because they know very well they are going to be strung up by their heels when it's over...and by their own people.
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