If You Support Hamas..........

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  1. CatholicCrusader

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    I support the innocent people that having to deal with tear gas and rubber bullets in the streets of Gaza and Ferguson.
     
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    Herding a million refugees into Gaza and denying them water and fishing rights ... destroying tens of thousands of olive trees and denying them the ability to trade is not exactly benign........
     
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    I support the liberation of a population which has been subject to abuse, murder, ghettoisation, marginalisation and the daily erosion of both their means of making a living and, more important, their land and property. This has been going on for half a century. Seems the Israelis learned their tactics from their own historical oppressors...
    Facts are indeed a great thing.
     
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    In other words, the Jews, for 5,000 years.

    The Jews protect themselves from terrorists who seek their annihilation. Apparently you support those who seek to destroy the Jews.

    It seems to me there was another guy in history who wanted to destroy the Jews. Who was that guy again? Had a funny mustache I think.

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    If that's what they have to do to keep from being exterminated then that's what they have to do.

    God bless Israel.
     
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    And lying is not exactly a convincing way to argue.
     
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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I feel horrible for the Israeli soldier's families who've lost their lives defending their country. I hope their deaths will not be in vain (ie hamas gets annihilated)

    God speed Israel.
     
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    Tell us, who are these people who seek the annihilation of Israel?

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    Tough. You sign on the line and take the consequences. I have no sympathy for the agents of an oppressive and serially law-breaking regime. That would be Israel.

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    Who is lying?
     
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    Gallop poll results mentioned in this article say that American opinion is shifting with regard to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and that those under 30 years old now believe 2 to 1 that Israel's actions have been unjustified:

    http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201408122211-0024049
     
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    That's the beauty of the internet. Today's youth has grown up with it and they are bright enough not to rely on the mainstream media for their information, preferring to dig deeper for the truth thus avoiding the partisan propaganda which has been conspicuously pro-Israeli for decades.
     
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    Just becasue Israel is not listed as a terroirst organizatin does not mean the state of Israel does not conduct terrorist activities.
     
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    You do realize that both sides have used terrorism to achieve their goals. Right?
     
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    i dont support a lot of the embargo.

    but Israel is under no obligation to be nice to a govt. that wants to destroy them.
     
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    Hamas Policies Just a Continuation of Nazi Policies

    http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/medigest/may00/arabnazi.html

    The Führer's Mufti: After World War I, the Great Powers of Europe
    jockeyed for influence in the Middle East's oil fields and trade routes,
    with France and Britain holding mandates throughout most of the region.
    In the 1930s, the fascist regimes that arose in Italy and Germany sought
    greater stakes in the area, and began courting Arab leaders to revolt
    against their British and French custodians. Among their many willing
    accomplices was Jerusalem Mufti Haj Amin el-Husseini, who fled Palestine
    after agitating against the British during the Arab Revolt of 1936-39.
    He found refuge in Iraq – another of Her Majesty's mandates – where he
    again topped the British most wanted list after helping pull the strings
    behind the Iraqi coup of 1941. The revolt in Baghdad was orchestrated by
    Hitler as part of a strategy to squeeze the region between the pincers
    of Rommel's troops in North Africa, German forces in the Caucuses and
    pro-Nazi forces in Iraq. However, in June 1941 British troops put down
    the rebellion and the Mufti escaped via Tehran to Italy and eventually
    to Berlin.

    Once in Berlin, the Mufti received an enthusiastic reception by the
    "Islamische Zentralinstitut" and the whole Islamic community of Germany,
    which welcomed him as the "Führer of the Arabic world." In an
    introductory speech, he called the Jews the "most fierce enemies of the
    Muslims" and an "ever corruptive element" in the world. Husseini soon
    became an honored guest of the Nazi leadership and met on several
    occasions with Hitler. He personally lobbied the Führer against the plan
    to let Jews leave Hungary, fearing they would immigrate to Palestine. He
    also strongly intervened when Adolf Eichman tried to cut a deal with the
    British government to exchange German POWs for 5000 Jewish children who
    also could have fled to Palestine. The Mufti's protests with the SS were
    successful, as the children were sent to death camps in Poland instead.
    One German officer noted in his journals that the Mufti would liked to
    have seen the Jews "preferably all killed." On a visit to Auschwitz, he
    reportedly admonished the guards running the gas chambers to work more
    diligently. Throughout the war, he appeared regularly on German radio
    broadcasts to the Middle East, preaching his pro-Nazi, anti-Semitic
    message to the Arab masses back home.

    To show gratitude towards his hosts, in 1943 the Mufti travelled several
    times to Bosnia, where on orders of the SS he recruited the notorious
    "Hanjar troopers," a special Bosnian Waffen SS company which
    slaugh-tered 90% of Bosnia's Jews and burned countless Serbian churches
    and villages. These Bosnian Muslim recruits rapidly found favor with SS
    chief Heinrich Himmler, who established a special Mullah Military school
    in Dresden.

    The only condition the Mufti set for his help was that after Hitler won
    the war, the entire Jewish population in Palestine should be liquidated.
    After the war, Husseini fled to Switzerland and from there escaped via
    France to Cairo, were he was warmly received. The Mufti used funds
    received earlier from the Hilter regime to finance the Nazi-inspired
    Arab Liberation Army that terrorized Jews in Palestine.

    The Arab Embrace of Nazism: Husseini represents the prevalent pro-Nazi
    posture among the Arab/Muslim world before, during and even after the
    Holocaust. The Nazi-Arab connection existed even when Adolf Hitler first
    seized power in Germany in 1933. News of the Nazi takeover was welcomed
    by the Arab masses with great enthusiasm, as the first congratulatory
    telegrams Hitler received upon being appointed Chancellor came from the
    German Consul in Jerusalem, followed by those from several Arab
    capitals. Soon afterwards, parties that imitated the National Socialists
    were founded in many Arab lands, like the "Hisb-el-qaumi-el-suri" (PPS)
    or Social Nationalist Party in Syria. Its leader, Anton Sa'ada, styled
    himself the Führer of the Syrian nation, and Hitler became known as "Abu
    Ali" (In Egypt his name was "Muhammed Haidar"). The banner of the PPS
    displayed the swastika on a black-white background.
     
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    When you poll people who have been fed leftwing slanted news then you get leftwing results. Polls are worthless when the news is crap
     
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    The Mufti met with Hitler ONCE for 15 minutes and Hitler wouldn't shake his hand..

    By the 1930s the Jewish immigrants had killed 500 British peacekeepers.. You need to learn some real history and read some contemporaneous documents and reports.
     
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    Israel are not the terrorists here.

    Any other country does what Israel does and they wouldn't be called a terrorists.

    America bombs ISIS and obama isn't called a terrorist.

    Technically speaking, ISIS is not an organized country sponsored army, they are civilians who just think they're a military.

    So if Israel bombs civilians(terrorists), then if America bombs civilians(terrorists) then that must mean America is a terrorists organization who are oppressing those poor poor Palestinian(Arabian) people.

    No different than Israel.

    Mp pm tp the regularly scheduled anti Israel propaganda...
     
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    Exactly.
     
  19. CatholicCrusader

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    That's because Hitler was a racist. But they both shared a hatred of Jews.

    Hamas is Nazism in the 21st century. Anyone who can't see that is blinded by evil and antisemitism
     
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    That's good to know.
     
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    An appeal to authority, huh?

    No thanks. I'll derive my own moral compass from what I read, see, think, and feel.

    Hamas is what happens when a legitimate demand for freedom goes unmet and festers. They may be militant but nonetheless are a resistance group.
     
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    Any fact can be argued. All you have to do is take the opposite approach and you have an argument.

    But really, all that is is nothing more than argumentation, it has no substance, and is not about accomplishing anything, and is all about shutting people down, nothing more.

    It is as childish as antisemites protesting being called antisemites and calling people who call them antisemites is being childish. Because racism is cool and must never be challenged.
     
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    That's good to know.
     
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    Appealing to facts. If you support Hamas, you support terrorism. Period.
     
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    There's definitely something wryly amusing about a Catholic Crusader accusing others of supporting terrorism.
     

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