Is the young generation lazy?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by I justsayin, Jul 12, 2014.

  1. Herkdriver

    Herkdriver New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2007
    Messages:
    21,346
    Likes Received:
    297
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'm a product of the 70's for the most part. My formative years from say 7 - 16 were smack dab in an era promulgated by heavy marijuana usage, pre-marital sex and consumption of alcohol among my peers. My parents yanked me out of the public school system very early on and sent me to all-boys Catholic schools. Of course there were still bad kids at Catholic schools, but for the most part it was notch up from public schools. It would be easy enough to conclude kids from my generation, post-baby boomers, or maybe late baby-boomers, would amount to nothing.

    You can't write-off an entire generation, consisting of millions of young people...as lazy

    My only observation from Millennials (1982 - 2002) is they seemed to have been raised by video games. As a result they are, for lack of better words...fatter than average.

    There's the good and the bad in every generation. Each generation post-1960s seems to glorify alcohol, drug use and pre-marital sex, but there are still good kids out there.
     
  2. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    43,110
    Likes Received:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    shouldn't it requier money to "have drive" under any form of Capitalism?
     
  3. katzgar

    katzgar Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2013
    Messages:
    9,361
    Likes Received:
    1,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    yes...

    - - - Updated - - -

    "shouldn't it requier money to "have drive" under any form of Capitalism? "


    no, just creativity
     
  4. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    43,110
    Likes Received:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    capitalism should provide what is paid for, by mutual agreement; only Socialism bails out Capitalism for free through charity.
     
  5. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2012
    Messages:
    7,134
    Likes Received:
    598
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Hello, self-employment, teens don't have to work for others all my work largely was money I made on my own since the disabled are worse off than healthy teens in the job market. Find something you like to do and make money at it one young person I know loves collectible card games and makes money selling cards at locations. After investing some of his earnings he makes around $200 a month its not much but he is only 13 and its all cash. There is babysitting, watching houses when people are away, busking, dog walking, helping old people shop as a companion and lots of things one can do. One just has to show some initiative.
     
  6. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    7,466
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    And that's the difference! Not much initiative being shown. They just give up.
     
  7. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2008
    Messages:
    16,557
    Likes Received:
    1,273
    Trophy Points:
    113
    [video=youtube;1wCXr_6wgns]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wCXr_6wgns[/video]

    Whatever you say about kids today, likely your grandparents were saying about your generation.
     
  8. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    43,110
    Likes Received:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    How well did, just showing initiative work during the Great Depression?
     
  9. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2008
    Messages:
    9,046
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48
    ...

    I don't agree that this young generation is particular more lazy than young generations before.

    First off, lives progress less fast nowadays. We get married later, buy our first house later...

    It's only when one is expected to take responsibility for his or her own well-being -- on all fronts, things change drastically.

    I just love my life right now, the last two years have been really intense for me.

    I've got myself a really good job, and I work and study very hard to better myself on all fronts: at work, at home, on my health, on overall fabelousness, on my cooking skills,... :)

    That being said I'm a real stress chicken, but I try to balance that out by being super well-prepared -- I need proper time for everything. So...sometimes when I get home from work I think to myself: screw my household, I'm going to work-out, take a shower, eat and lie on the sofa. Then, the next day -- I'll get my cleaning gear and go full throttle. :)

    I guess that all I wanted to say is that it's personal -- it has nothing to do with age perse! :)
     
  10. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    7,466
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83

    adults are expected to take responsibility for his or her own well-being. that's always been the standard.
     
  11. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2008
    Messages:
    9,046
    Likes Received:
    76
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I guess this is very true indeed!

    Taking responsbility is awesome...

    The thing is though...loads of people take responsbility (as in: credit) when things go right and marvelous. When things go wrong, they are nowhere to be seen because they have run to the hills.

    I've been in this situation a couple of times at work with some collegues.

    Maybe I'm still a bit to naive or something,... I don't know.

    And...it's often people who are older and far more experienced than me.

    Afraid to admit to their mistakes?

    I don't have that problem, because a while back (like 3 or 4 years ago) I was going through a lot, and I told myself then: you must admit to your mistakes, short-comings and everything in between to better yourself. So I did. :)
     
  12. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    7,466
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83

    So then you will lose the poor me speech we have seen on the board? If so that's great!
     
  13. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    7,466
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    that makes a lot of sense. everybody cannot be leaders. i also see a lot of chefs in the kitchen.
     
  14. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    43,110
    Likes Received:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    i would rather children get to play longer in their childhood.
     
  15. Oxymoron

    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2008
    Messages:
    8,968
    Likes Received:
    56
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Not lazy, but they seem to think they are entitled to things. This entitlement issue is the direct result of the liberal welfare state.
     
  16. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    43,110
    Likes Received:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    They should feel a sense of entitlement to supply side economics supplying them with better governance at lower cost, with no active effort on their part.
     
  17. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,010
    Likes Received:
    16,803
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not lazy just a complete lack of understanding how the process of life works. They want to start out at twenty with all the stuff mommy and daddy acquired over 20 years of working their butts off and when that first burger flipping job comes in at about 230 a week they get really shocked and disappointed.
     
  18. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    7,466
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    not parenting?

    - - - Updated - - -

    very interesting. i agree they don't think they have to learn or earn anything. they think it should be automatic.
     
  19. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    43,110
    Likes Received:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes, private charity only covers multitudes of sins; some on the left, get it.
     
  20. Liberalis

    Liberalis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2012
    Messages:
    2,432
    Likes Received:
    93
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I always find the criticism that the millennial generation is living with their parents strange. In 1968, when older generations were the age of millennial, roughly the same percentage were living with their parents.
    [​IMG]
    http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/08/01/a-rising-share-of-young-adults-live-in-their-parents-home/

    The difference that does exist, as well as differences between those living with other kin, can be attributed to worsening economic conditions and increasing levels of debt (such as student loans) making affording a place to stay more difficult. Nothing to do with laziness.

    The idea that young people today go from job to job more than anyone else is also patently false. In fact, young people to day are staying in their jobs longer than young people 10 years ago. And this in fact may actually be a bad thing. People often change jobs because they find a position that’s better paying or a better fit. The recession stymied some of these transitions because it has made finding a new job much harder.

    Old people have been complaining about the work habits and ethics of young people since ancient times. Much of the complains are solved by work experience, which young people of all generations will always lack until they become...well...older.
     
  21. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    7,466
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I think you're alone in your analysis. Most people feel that the younger folks are more entitled. And they won't try unless they feel they will get it all.
     
  22. Liberalis

    Liberalis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2012
    Messages:
    2,432
    Likes Received:
    93
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Obviously not alone, as I just gave numerous sources with data debunking the claims of the OP and supporting my position. And like I said, older generations have felt that younger generations are more entitled not only throughout all of American history, but since ancient times.
     
  23. justlikethat

    justlikethat New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,652
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    0
    That's because growing up in liberal homes, they received trophies for finishing in last place, they think they're doing just fine!
     
  24. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    7,466
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I wasn't trying to make it a liberal or conservative thing, but the whole not even knowing that they are doing anything wrong or that everything is fine is a huge problem. I agree with that. It's obvious. And that is a new dynamic that hasn't been around before.
     
  25. Leo2

    Leo2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2009
    Messages:
    5,709
    Likes Received:
    181
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I'm not quite sure exactly what point is being made in this thread. Having just turned twenty, I assume I am included in the demographic being criticised, but while personal anecdotal evidence is perhaps not the most objective arbiter, I do think people are generalising a little too much in this discussion.

    I live roughly 12,000 miles away from my home, and have done so for the past several years. In fact, having attended boarding schools, I have not really lived at home since I was not quite six. Many of my contemporaries have had a similar history, and we look after ourselves and shoulder our responsibilities as best we can.

    My parents' generation were born in the mid seventies, and I suspect life was easier for them - university education was free, the cost of living and petrol was cheap, and society seemed much more permissive than today.

    So I would appreciate some input on what people in their late teens/early twenties are inadvertently doing wrong - and how that is different from what the previous generation did. :)
     

Share This Page