Dumbing down of entertainment products

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    Arent' you tired of the massive dumbing down of the films regularly coming out from the big entertainment industry? I mean... in the past we had real masterpieces which treated important arguments, hystorical facts, particular situations etc... along with much less pretentious films of course. But today it's like nobody wants to do something different than the usual mediocre action/comedy, full of special effects and boorish morals. Some of them are really a parody of the parody, being totally fast, brutish and ignorant about the real facts. I don't even go to the cinema anymore, everything is so pointless... or am i too pretentious? What do you think about the dumbing down of entertainment industry? Is stupidity becoming a value for us?

    My feeling is that along with people who enjoy such products, there are a lot who are growing tired of this.
     
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    I love popcorn movies when done well. I also love an amazing plot and great writing. I love special effect(it's what I do) so I'm biased.

    But I hate a dull story someone tries to pass off as deep or contemplative. And intellectuals who claim if you don't get it you don't understand movies. Those people can jump off a cliff.
     
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    Really? When in the past were you thinking of exactly?
     
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    There are a lot of masterpieces. Some of them are amazingly different from the recent productions think about the elephant man, which deals with catasthropic malformations and consequent stigma. Another one i like is " awakenings " with robert de niro. There are many, many others on the same line, but i don't want to make an enumeration with this thread. Recent productions are really ignorant, they deal onyl about action, sex, boorish revenge and superficial morals. It's like the kingdom of the superficiality, they are really all pathetic with very few exceptions ( which are inferior to most works of the past anyway ).

    So why do we like all these stupid films so much? This is a dangerous drift. How can you distinguish between stupid and intelligent right now? Every film is so idiotic... it makes the slightly less idiotic look like intellectual, and they even win awards. At this rate people will really begin to believe that the romans spoke english, leonida was a superhero and dracula was a vampire. When will we finally see something which doesn't distort reality to please the masses?
     
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    I think your premise is wrong. There are indeed classic films from the past but there was plenty of trash too, we just forget the latter. Similarly, there are great films still being made among today's trash, they're just not all recognised as classics yet.

    This whole concept of everything being so much better at some undefined golden age in the past is so often grossly exaggerated at best and completely blinkered at worst. It's also a statement that has always been made - when the films you're (rightly) celebrating were being made, there will have been people saying exactly the same thing you are now.
     
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    Social Engineering.

    You can't forget about who funds these films, and exactly WHY they want our society misinformed and desensitized to their twisted versions of reality.

    Pop culture is the quickest means to make people manifest their vision.

    Even seemingly benign plots are, in actuality, subversive mind control programming.

    These films are designed to put little ideas in your head that they will use against you later on.

    Usually, these ideas will result in consumer choices and counterproductive trends they hope us to follow.

    Its really not about money, but rather about psychological warfare against the populace.

    Look at Breaking Bad. The show reinforces multitudes of erroneous stereotypes and praises and glamorizes violence, drug trafficking, revenge, false ambition and murder. Yet, masses of american parents will idiotically let their 10 year olds watch it with them.

    The ideas that are implanted in our subconscious by shows like this really do have adverse effects on people, and most have no idea what's being done to them by watching this filth.
     
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    Give me some names of recent films which made a good impression on you. I will gladly watch them.

    Well i think this is gruesome. We let our sons grow with violent trash films, videogames and ignorant shows. No wonder some people who are a little awkward by themselves turn into monstrous mass murders, expecially there in america where weapons are so easily accesseable. It's like we are totally forgetful that violence implies suffering and it's bad. It's also like major productors are by themselves quite careless people, not too much concerned about their sons or the sons of others. I remember some elliot rodger who begin killing people because he thought to take revenge on his enemies like a hollywood hero.
     
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    They've always thought Romans spoke English. Besides the Passion, most movies show Romans speaking English.

    I heard a theory on NPR (don't remember the show, but it was in the last month or two), that what is happening is that we are making movies for the global market, not just the U.S. market. It's easier to translate and sell the action flicks..... They don't require as much cultural knowledge to understand as deeper movies.
     
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    You've not established what you're considering recent yet. I don't know if you're comparing films from 50, 25 or 5 years ago (a fact that somewhat supports my point).
     
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    You have one word wrong in that post and that's the word "facts"..."facts" have nothing to do with movies, they're for entertainment.



    Now, have you thought of reading a book instead? Yes, some of those are pretty dumb but it's much easier to find good books than good movies ...and cheaper, too.
     
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    Not particularly. Pick an industry that hasn't already done everything. Video games for instance are in perhaps their best shape ever. It's really interesting just how individualistic it's all turning out - hundreds of independent or crowdfunded games are released each month, quite a few of them of top quality.

    Music is seeing a similar move away from centralized delivery systems toward cloud-based subscription services, and if you want something physical, vinyl and CDs are experiencing a revival. In addition, today's music is pretty good if you look past the mainstream.

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    Film.... eh.

    Too centralized in Hollywood. There are only 3 or 4 new movies I see each year now.
     
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    I read books, i like particularly hystorical ones because i think we can learn much more from our hystory than some demented world hypotesized by a fantasy writer ( which are among the best sellers, think about the lord of the rings ).

    Just a question... how come movies against war and pro peace have much utterly disappeared from our screens? And movies about heroic deeds in battle are so abundant? It's a curious drift, considering also the times we live in.
     
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    Movies about "heroic" deeds in battle have always been around...think "John Wayne"...
     
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    Yes but now there is a sudden outburts of them. The mercenaries saga, 300, '71, Fury, Monuments Men, Lone Survivor... that's a nice pack of war movies but there are many others. It's like they are trying to launch a subliminary message with all these war films, like that war ain't that bad if it's for freedomand defending your friends... am i wrong? What do you think about this drift? We had full metal jacket, now in 2014 we have mercenaries ( most ignorant film of all times ), that's curious.
     

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