Black "Thug" Culture, psychology why are they more prone to criminal behavior?

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  1. ManifestDestiny

    ManifestDestiny Well-Known Member

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    I took a psychology class, that is where my notions of free will were destroyed. They do NOT talk about it, they talk about Nature vs Nurture, everyone knows this, its NATURE VS NURTURE, not free will. Do you know what Nature vs Nurture means? That is the basis of psychology.
     
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    That is ridiculous...by what measure?

    What is the comparison of the strength of white families as compared to the 1950's are white families stronger since 1960's?

    Are you claiming that welfare caused the destruction of the American family regardless of economic level? How did welfare destroy the families of the middle and upper-middle class Americans?
     
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    TexMexChef Well-Known Member

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    Then why lump anyone together by their accomplishments or failures...if each is an individual why would you want to group them. If every person is responsible for their actions...placing them in a collective group is the opposite of that belief.

    If you believe in collectivism, then others will do so the same to you...
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if being pool was the only contributing factor or even the majority contributing factor we would see more whites committing crimes then blacks because there are more poor whites then there are poor blacks
    so being poor isn't the only contributing factor there is something exclusive in the black culture that is the major contributing factor and it isn't being poor because then you would see the same results across all ethnic lines that are poor
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought this to be pertinent and funny:

    [video=youtube;QR465HoCWFQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR465HoCWFQ[/video]
     
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    Uh......... Duh.

    I'm sure some moron will disagree with the obvious though.
     
  7. PatrickT

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    Find me a black American who was a slave. Before you bet, take a look at reality. What party keeps poor blacks in nonperforming schools. For liberals, schools exist to employee teachers and pay off unions. Students are irrelevant, especially if they're black. And, blacks rightly say, why stay in school when there are no jobs in the city. True, but that's the way the liberals want it. Poor blacks can work at minimum wage or be on the dole. Suggestions that we have more charter schools our vouchers are fought by both the teachers unions and their accomplices in the government. Businesses in cities, other than service industries, are taxed out of town and regulated out of business.

    Blacks who have two parents and the family supports itself don't seem to have a problem moving behind a vague memory of slavery. it's the Democrats keeping black families fragmented and on welfare that perpetuate the problems.
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you look Africa and the constant tribal wars you have to wonder if the Africans here are genetically prone to this.
     
  9. PatrickT

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    I don't believe that. Bernie Madoff certainly wasn't poor. Rep. Charles Rangel isn't poor. Sen. Kerry who shipped his wife's yacht to a neighboring state to avoid taxes isn't poor. President Bill Clinton isn't poor and hasn't been poor since he was the govenor of Arkansas. Poor people from single-parent homes who drop out of school at age 12 and don't know anyone, certainly not in their family, who hold a steady job are more likely to commit crimes regardless of race. People who have grown up without a postive role model and are functionally illiterate are more likely to commit crimes. People who have been in the criminal justice system since the age of 8 and learned that the sanctions are largely bogus are more likely to be criminals.

    But, I grew up with poor people, all of whom had a mother and a father at home and almost all of whom finished high school and many worked their way through college. Yes, I knew some crooks but when I got in college with people who weren't poor I met even more crooks.
     
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    Different culture. American blacks were imported as slaves and then ghettized by the whites. Asians weren't slaves but free men, and they have their own way, which they brought from where they come from, it's totally different than being imported with force.
     
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    Nature vs nurture is only one small aspect and facet of psychology it is not the basis of psychology.

    One class does not teach you more and a smidgeon of what the field is about and you clearly learned littlw about the field your assumptions are baseless nonsense and the field of psychology itslef proves you wrong.

    you may believe free will does not exist and that is fine it is only and strictly YOUR opinion a few psychogists may even agree with you but it is not a universal opinion nor is it a proven fact it is just your uneducated and uniformed feeling which you fixate on because it conveniently fits in with the socialist, collectivist, totalitarian belief system you cling to

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    By any measure you choose to pick but it is fact deal with it

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    I never did group them manifest destiny did in the OP.

    I oppose collectivism in every form the OP author worships and and all collectivist idealogies.

    Please try and keep up
     
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    russians are prone to criminal behavior at a rate higher, more than double, than any Afrikan nation so it cant be genetic.
     
  13. PatrickT

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    When a 15-year old girl gets pregnant she is told by family, friends, and the welfare workers that the government can support her much better than that boy can. And, that's true, for awhile. But fifteen years down the road, the boy has a decent paying job, the girl's baby is repeating the cycle.

    I had two 15-year old girls on my beat downtown who each had a baby. Every afternoon when I came on duty and they were downtown I'd talk to them about going back to school. They just laughed at me. Welfare would take care of them.

    A young mother, around 20-years old, was getting in trouble and was in danger of losing her child. She was on welfare, of course, and stayed up all night with "friends" dropping by. Some of the friends were burglars and she had problems with drugs. She really wanted to keep her baby so I got her a job. She called me a few days later and said, "I can't keep the job. Welfare owns this trailer I live in and they said I'd have to move out right now and I don't have money yet to rent a place. They also said I'd lose my Medicaid coverage and they showed me how much money I'd be losing to go to work." I told her I could find people to help but she said she'd be better off on welfare. She died at age 26. Another success story for the liberals.

    The government goes to great length to see that there are no intact families in some communities and to see that people get on welfare and stay on welfare. The current administration brags about the increase of people on welfare and Rep. Pelosi brags that the liberals are freeing people of the drudgery of having to work.

    And, you want to know why?

    Asians have, as a group, a great sense of responsibility. Liberals have none.
     
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    you must not know the history of early Asian immigrants do you?
    the came to America and to pay for their passage they was forced to work as slaves to help build the railroads they was treated as bad and even worse then black slaves on the plantations.
     
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    Except they are not.

    The great depression resulted in a great increase in poverty yet crime decreased.

    The same paradox happened recently during the recession.
     
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    You are a cop?

    And you are racist?

    Just even more proof the Michael Brown shooting was racially motivated.
     
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    There is no proof or evidence tghat it was racially motivated or even unjustified.

    Nor is there any proof whatsoever that the poster you responded to is racist you state an outright lie calling him that.
     
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    Nothing has been presented as sworn testimony evidence in a court of law as of yet...so everything is conjecture. You have no way to prove or disprove any claim made in the Micheal Brown case.
     
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    Your 'bias' caused you to express the stupidity above. And I can imagine if you as a cop possess the perspective you do, I suppose you might become biased.

    But the reality overall, is that there are responsible people of ALL ethnicities trying to make it. And I'm not saying that welfare reform or improvement isn't warranted... but we cannot just hold up "Asians" as the gold standard of human behavior, just because you see it that way.

    No, the problems stem from many more factors than you probably recognize, despite what you surmise in doing your job.
     
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    :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: Another frickin comic, Forum is full of y'all.
     
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    I agree with what you say, except for the degradation of Free Will.

    Free Will plays the role of changing one's mind.
    Which is one of you own goals here for us readers, I assume.


    Free Will is actually an enlarged State-of-Fear which man now uses 24 hours and 7 days a week, as he uses that time to acquire more facts and information to avoid bad consequences in decisions he will be making.

    This happens regardless of what sociological position he has been raised inside, whether an American or a Saudi, etc.
     
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    Yes this is true which is why my post was accurate I never claimed anything except that there is no evidence of racist motive for the shooting or anything else for that matter
     
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    Here we have the scientific Stats to make a strong case to show that kids without fathers are the bastards we do not call them today.

    They are the source of 70% of all violent crime in America, (whether Black kids or White kids).
    But 72% of the Black kids are being raised as bastards and they are the people who destroy the schools (and every other social institution, too).

    Welfare and the statistical fact that daughters of single mother divorce easily at a rate of 90% makes the condition a Social Problem.
     
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    The Kangaroo Court of the inner city Black people heard the "testimony" of one of the thugs the Cop was trying to arrest say the Cop was a bad Cop.

    They immediately believed the Cop shot a nice unarmed boy because Cops are always against the young single mother raised Black boys because they hate them.
    The verdict came immediately thereafter, and meant outsiders who were Black guys without fathers in the household could loot and rob the small businesses which we owned by White people.
     

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