Fox News: Rape victims need to take personal responsibility for drinking too much

The (*)(*)(*)(*) it doesn't.


Is it easier for a woman to resist unwanted sexual advances, when she is sober or passed out drunk?

Saying that over indulgence of booze has no connection to sexual assualt, is plain retarded.

 

No one can give you a guarenteed way to be rich but they can give you good suggestions that might mean you'll do well. On the other hand, they can give you a guaranteed way to be poor that works almost every time. It's the same with being safe. No matter what you do you might get in trouble but there are certain things you can do that will almost guarantee trouble.

I've had people email me and ask if Oaxaca is safe for tourists. My response is that if you're not involved in politics, not involved in drugs, not involved with other people's spouses, and you don't get falling down drunk in public, yes, it's quite safe. Do those things in Oaxaca or most cities in the U.S. and you'll get in trouble.

 

Another lying headline to push the fake " War on Women". If you get to drunk to defend yourself you are more likely to get raped. That is common sense. It doesnt "justify" anything.

 

Men just can't help themselves?? If a woman DRINKS it's her fault?? So how many drinks--2, 3, 4?? If she says no at 3 and 4?? They have her at five. What is the magical # that men feel they can have sex without her permission? Is she fair game if she can't fight off her attacker??

 

No need to be aggressively stupid.

No one is saying that she is fair game and anyone should have sex with her.

What responsible people are saying is: Lower your risk of X occurring. Being (*)(*)(*)(*) faced drunk and dependent on other people for your safety and well being is nothing short of stupid.

Don't put yourself in a vulnerable position where you are dependent on other people for your well being and safety. Take care of yourself. Its pretty easy to figure out.

You are using hysterical, ridiculous, and immature hyperboles because you refuse to address that very point which has been made multiple times in this thread.

 

That's great. The woman gets drunk, asks the man to have sex with her, he does, and goes to prison. Welcome to LibWorld. A drunk woman is, according to the law, incapable of giving consent. So, in your world, the man should go to prison for accepting the woman's invitation to have sex.

 

What does this have to do with my post ?

 

Find one poster who echos your strawman, that rape is ok if she is drunk.

I will show five people who deny that, and make the painfully obvious point of reducing your risks.

What is worst case scenario, what can you do to mitigate the risk?

 

Stop trying to justify and say rape is ok. Rape is never ok , no matter what you say.

 

The counterpoint being being that a man should be more responsible, and not do so much raping. Yet I don't see those thread's often.

 

And people should stop murdering. Robbing. And raping.

Yet, those things will never stop. So let's play in reality and forget the utopia.

So what is the worst case scenario in an activity, and what can you do to mitigate the risk in that activity?
a. Being so drunk that you are unable to take care of yourself and depend on other people (when you are physically and mentally incapable of making rational decisions).
b. Maintaining an effective degree of self-control and awareness.

 

Good grief, at least read the article before you post. Nothing of the such was
mentioned in the article.

To prove my point (so to speak), please highlight the places that Fox News said it was
the woman's fault.

 

It's a ridiculous counter point . Criminals aren't responsible , they are criminals . Getting blind drunk is not a good idea for anyone , let alone a female . I should be able to drive with out worrying about drunk drivers , but doesn't my mom telling me to buckle up make it so that she is justifying drunk driving ? It's such an absurd suggestion that I worry for those who make it .

 

THAT'S WHAT THE ARTICLE SAID!

I can't believe the people on these forums who don't read before posting.

Good grief.

 

Liberal attitude=do whatever you want then blame someone else when something bad happens. In other words, take ZERO responsibility. Brilliant. Of course the actual act of rape isn't a woman's fault. Getting yourself in a situation where rape can happen? Unless you get drugged without your knowledge, a woman certainly has plenty of control over NOT getting in that sort of situation. Its utter B.S. to claim women are these poor, pathetic, powerless, ignorant fools....well at least that's what liberals always tell us, when rape is involved. Otherwise, women are powerful, hear me roar...all that crap.

Don't base-jump off buildings and guess what, you don't have to worry about falling off a high building or your chute failing=) Jump in and out of bed of enough strangers, drunk and alone, and its only a matter of time. If you claim, you had no idea, YOU are the stupid one. No excuses.

 

It is not so much that rape can happen, it is that rape is much more likely to happened.

 

This was a WHOLE FOX PANEL that agreed.

Frankly, you can pick apart HIS remark--this time, however, it is in line with hundreds espoused by the RIGHT and this guy is a jackass. That's one of the reasons COEDS on campus are FAIR GAME. Private colleges, public colleges--NO ONE WANTS THE PUBLICITY, no one wants to scare the crap out moms and dads and not send their MONEY to their school along with their daughters. SO NOW 1 IN 5 COEDS IS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED.

 

Agreed that women should not drink to the point of not be able to make sound judgements or defend themselves. Common sense. Yes the whole FOX panel showed common sense no wonder you are so outraged.

 

Why should we women have to accommodate rapists by altering our lifestyle?

Should we show less when we dress too? The females at FOX News should cover their cleavage and legs, yes?

Lou is an idiot.

 

So being sexually assaulted--raped--is about women not making "sound judgements" and not being able to defend themselves? Women who don't get drunk don't get raped?

 

Actually, Dobbs, being a father of two daughters, is the real piece of work here. What kind of father would tell his own daughter that she has a personal responsibility in being raped?

 

He said he was not blaming the victim. Simply pointing out the activities that increase the probability of something terrible happening.

Is it that hard to understand?

 

^^This. Nobody on the panel seems to be blaming the victim, they seem to be saying that getting drunk to the point where you are helpless is a Very Bad Idea, because those you are with cannot always be trusted to have your best interests at heart. But if they take advantage of you, they are still guilty.

 

Rape has nothing to do with what a woman does or doesn't do. It has nothing to do with her clothes, speech, mind, or how much she drinks. Rape is about power and control, it's psychopathy, and the rapist is 100% responsible for it. Period.

 

Exactly, so why do something STUPID, that you know is stupid, then claim poor, poor me afterwards? I don't get it? Its like having unprotected sex then being surprised when you miss your time of the month? Oh really?? You didn't know what would happen?