Who's at fault over J-Law's nude photo hack?

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  1. daddyofall

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    One, had his nudes been leaked out, deemed a perv, the other a victim.
     
  2. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    I'm guessing you didn't read Mike's post.
     
  3. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_storage

    In a very technical sense, yes. However, for all practical purposes, it operates differently from just "surfing the web."

    As Mike mentioned, it's more of an intranet.
     
  4. AtsamattaU

    AtsamattaU Well-Known Member

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    Encrypting them makes a big difference. Simply securing them behind a username and password does not.
     
  5. AtsamattaU

    AtsamattaU Well-Known Member

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    What an asinine suggestion. Whenever there is an unattributed shooting do you first blame the military or police forces?
     
  6. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Not really. I can access icloud from pretty much any internet connected device. It's a password secured internet site.
     
  7. NightSwimmer

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    Guess whatever tickles your fancy. I've been in the business for 35 years. I don't need to read Mikey's post.
     
  8. Alwayssa

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    Primarily, the hackers.
     
  9. Alwayssa

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    Technically, any hacking is stealing and destruction of private property. Hence the reason for law enforcement investigations.
     
  10. mikezila

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    >>>THIS<<< is posted on the internet.

    a PM travels over the internet.

    iCloud automatically transfers your photos and stores your photos and other data from your phone and you can access it over the internet....which is what Apple is blaming The Fappening on...crappy password choices.
     
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    Oh yes, yes indeed... Apple uses special magic to transfer iData over the iNetwork. ;)
     
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    Nobody has argued against that point, to the best of my knowledge. The only point that I was making is that it isn't wise to upload nude photographs of oneself to a public network server if you don't want to risk those photographs being exposed to the public.
     
  13. Alwayssa

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    YOu are making an assumption that the photos were uploaded personally by the individual in question. That is not always the case.
     
  14. NightSwimmer

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    So then, is it your contention that someone sneaked into the bedrooms of these celebrities and used their iPhones to take the snapshots of them engaging in sexual acts? As for uploading the images, Apple sets their devices up by default to automatically upload images to their "iCloud" service. It is possible to change this setting, but many people buy Apple products simply because they don't want to be bothered with learning how to configure them.
     
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    Who cares about naked celebrities posted by a microcephal lol... this shows how people are more interested in jennifer lopez's vagina than solving the problems in the world. All the rumor you do only increases their fame, and i wonder if the photos were leaked on purpose... if it was for me, i'd sue the celebs not the leakers.
     
  16. mikezila

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    wow. you finally figured it out. :clapping:

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    unless you get hit by an uninsured motorist (and have that coverage) i'm not sure you can sue yourself.
     
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    can't post those pics here. google "the fappening",
     
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    Most people do not understand, despite it being stated several times, that this is an automatic function of the iphone, that it happens without permission or (in the case of most users) knowledge that it is happening.

    WHERE it is posted really doesn't matter for (*)(*)(*)(*). Whether it is the device itself that is hacked, or a storage device that surreptitiously acquires your data, it is YOUR DATA.

    Forget that they are personal photos (which, in the case of hollywood celebrities = big money). Pretend it is, instead, big money. Pretend it is a credit card. You make a note on your iphone that contains the credit card information, and the security pin on the back... and THAT is floated up to the cloud without your knowledge. Do you still condemn the victim of the hack for being "stupid"? Or is it that whole "slut" part that you are focusing on? Your moral judgment of taking and or sharing private photos?

    Men in this country are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing weird. Love it when celebs take off their clothes for playboy... thank and praise them... get caught taking private photos for an individual... she is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing slut who deserves what she gets.

    The data doesn't matter. The act of theft and invasion matters. Get your priorities straight.
     
  20. zbr6

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    I too got caught up in this celeb photo leak thing and noticed that some gymnast named McKayla Maroney had her pics spread around the internet as well.

    Apparently she was underage when the photos were taken, 16 or 17 or something, so its being called child pornography and quotes are claiming "so and so will be prosecuted for posting sharing etc".

    My question is, if that's the case then will McKayla Maroney be prosecuted for producing child pornography?

    And if not then why not?


    ...just as I hit the post submit button I see this:

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/charge-mckayla-maroney-production-and-possession-sexual-material-containing-minor/FQ0LnByd
     
  21. MrConservative

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    IMO Apple is at least partially to blame. The protection that blocks hackers after 3 password attempts was not existent through the find my iPhone app. I wonder how many celebrities had super easy passwords like Password1 for example. Some good can come out of this, like making people more aware of cyber security.
     
  22. JIMV

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    There was a talking head on one of the Fox market shows yesterday who had the ultimate answer..."If you want to protect your nude photo's, put them on Lois Lerner's computer for no one can find that"
     
  23. Alwayssa

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    No, my contention is that we do not know how or when the photos were placed on the ICloud. It is possible they are back up files by the person who took them. These photos that were released were not taken by the celebs themselves, but by another person. That person wmy not have told them where all the photos were located, for instance. Or if the switched phones, the process that transfers the photos from one phone to another is done through the ICloud. If they photos were on a personal computer, it is possible that the files were backed up using ICloud. and there are a number of other possibilities in which those photos may have been on the ICloud server.
     
  24. Kurmugeon

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    Celebrities are often, but not always, people who make their living based on the physique and public physical image. As such, they deliberately reveal tantalizing, but incomplete images of themselves in bit and pieces to the MSM and Paparazzi. The limiting of the image, the secrets not revealed, are all part of the media game of generating interest and scandalous talk.

    But at the same time they create the mystique and surreal image of their on screen personae, as people, they need to stay grounded and realistic about their self-perceptions, or when they get into interviews, they come across as false, and worse, egotistical.

    So, Celebrities, people who make their living by entertaining U.S. with the made up characters and images of their public personae, need an way of keeping themselves grounded in reality.

    They often take and share full nudity pictures of themselves, to share with their peers, or sometimes with Councillors and support groups, of a means of staying attached to reality and humility.

    This is why so many of these full nudity photos that get to the public are so unflattering in their makeup, pose, angle and formatting.

    In their chosen profession, these people NEED to be able to make and share these photos, with a select group of people, not the public.

    It is their RIGHT to have and use such tools, just like it is a carpenters right to have a rotary electric saw!

    People who violate their privacy by releasing these unauthorized photos should be punished to the limit of the Law!

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  25. NightSwimmer

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    I don't know. I haven't seen any of the photos in question. At any rate, I don't understand the point that you are trying to make. The simplest way for the photos to have ended up on Apple's servers was for them to automatically be transferred there when they were taken. This is the default mode of operation for an iPhone. It is known that the hackers gained access to the photos by using an automated program to try thousands of random passwords until they found a match. Apple should not have allowed these multiple attempts at password cracking -- but they did.
     

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