Breaking news. Poroshenko announced a permanent ceasefire in the Donbas.

The way I see this is if they try to sell the 2 ships to NATO with St Petersburg technology on them Putin will have to crush the carrot being dangled in Hollande's face and increase the 6 year currency war to completely de value the dollar. This will require China also joining in and cashing in their chips. (US Debt)

 

France can do whatever they like with the ships.

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meanwhile you accuse Ukraine of being "Nazis" and committing "genocide" in eastern Ukraine against Russians.

its like the Russia Today channel in your house never turns off.

 

I'm pretty stunned that some people out there are trying to spin a complete withdrawal of Kiev's forces from the region, moving out of range of artillery fire and having what is essentially a no-fly zone, as a victory for Kiev. It's as if these people have no ability to engage in rational thought. You know they aren't paid internet trolls as it is popular to accuse people of being because a paid troll wouldn't be this stupid. It's all quite disturbing.

 

Sure they can as long as they can pay the 40% back to Russia they already have into the ships and the 10 billion dollar fine.
Russia also has the right to cut France off from their gas also. It doesn't appear any nation has to fulfill their contracts in a lawless world.
"Russia is currently the largest provider of hydrocarbons to the European Union, with France relying on the country for a quarter of its gas, a situation not expected to change in future. "

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Exactly. Have to wonder who ties their shoes for them in the morning.

 

Ukraine's military has abandoned all of the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts???


lol!!!!!!!!! you need to stop watching Russia Today.

 

Well if we are talking about the cease-fire agreement, if it goes anywhere, that's seemingly what they would do. If it doesn't go anywhere, the rebels seem to be surging while Poroshenko discusses withdraw and a futile attempt to get NATO membership. Either way it doesn't look like Kiev is winning. This isn't King of the Hill, Kiev can hold the smaller cities and still be losing the fight.

 

Kiev is having a deer-in-the-headlights moment.

Here's the very detailed Plan B.

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http://rt.com/news/184791-putin-ukraine-kiev-militia/

In Ukraine, meanwhile, Putin’s peace plan was met with criticism from the country’s prime minister, Arseniy Yatsenuk, who said that Russia’s real plan is to destroy Ukraine and restore the USSR.

"We are waiting for decisions from NATO and the EU on how to stop the aggressor,” he said.

 

I hear Yates has offered to caddy for Barry at the NATO summit tomorrow.

 

1. We never had EU as a partner. Current events are proving that EU wanted slaves but not partners.
2. The Ukraine is a loss. It is lost for the world, not only for Russia. This winter will be decisive for what is left of Ukraine.
3. We are getting ready for World Cup 2018 for football is not the policy. If all the european teams ignore it obeying to their fuhrers we would gladly invite teams from South America, Asia and Africa.
4. Sanctions are welcome. They will be analysed and there will be a response depending on what is imposed.

1. You got the responsibility for the actions of young fascists and 30 million of people who need to be fed and warmed.
2. That is your problem. If any of NATO soldiers is killed think of it as a beginning of your payment for the epic hmmmm win.

 

Hmmm. McCain doesn't look any better than Obama in my viewpoint. Frankly speaking I don't know that much of the american policy and see no real difference between republicans and democrats.

 

Well said! Poroshenko looks like a puppet of the west, but I don't feel that the separatists are totally Putin's puppet. After all they risk their lifes for independance, and Poroshenko is just a weathy politician who will never willing to risk his life for Ukraine's future.

I mean Ukraine could act as China does to Hong Kong---> I doubt that because the dialogue is very difficult to continue when there is a deep rooted racial hatred between both parties.

Now the separatists continue their charge, in order to get as more land as they can before the ceasefire.

 

Russia and Ukraine - There are two parts of the same people as the German Democratic Republic and the Federal Republic of Germany until 1991.

 

I noticed that despite the vivid rhetoric all peace initiatives, all of rapprochement between the United States and Russia took place just under Presidents Republicans. But I meant that many Democrats are already hurrying to leave the sinking boat Obama. For example, look at that now does Hillary Clinton. http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...syrian-rebels-led-to-the-rise-of-isis/375832/
IMHO Obama's support for the Democrats today = defeat in congressional elections. Look. Void around a Obama, as around a leper.