How to Beat Mrs Clinton

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Natty Bumpo, Jul 1, 2014.

  1. Thundercat

    Thundercat New Member

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    You make a good point about Hillary. However, trust me when I tell you that her presidency has already been decided by the powers to be in your 'oh so democratic' country. Hogwash.
    The electronic vote now so favoured by Western politicians will make electoral fraud a breeze as has been the disenfranchising of votes in certain US states.
    The whole democracy claim is a sham.
    Bill Clinton's presidency was decided years before and the dumb ass public swallow the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) time and again with verve.
    Hillary will be President, however you vote. Mark my words.
     
  2. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I am sure you have a far better grasp of what happens "Over Here" than we do....I will indeed mark your words.

    With a permanent marker stating Bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!
     
  3. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    Uh hate to break your heart but the only way to beat her is the american sheople needs to take their country back from these bankers and criminals in washington who run our country and get an independent in office who serves the people instead of all the bankers like every president in our corrupt two party system has done for the past 50 years..clinton seems to be the one the establishment wants in office and if thats true,she is the one that will be the next president if again that indeed is the one that they want to be in office.
     
  4. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

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    i was thinking baseball bat...but that might work too.
     
  5. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Whether Randy Paul is woefully inept in the slugging department, he is opting for characterizing the likely next POTUS as a warmonger, hoping that Obama's 2008 tactic can work once more. Her enthusiasm for the Bush's monumental fiasco in Iraq is the item on her resumé that makes Americans cringe.

     
  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    congress did not declare war, they gave that choice to Bush... Bush decided

    this was so bush could put war on the table if Iraq would not let inspectors in...

    iraq let inspectors in, they found no WMD, this is where is should of ended, BUT Bush thought otherwise.... Bush did not ask Congress to declare war, he decided to declare war himself


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  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BS, Obama will endorse her and more Americans will vote for her cause most Americans want 8 more Clinton years

    you act like the far left will vote republican if Clinton runs, that is just silly

    so who would you vote for to go against Clinton....
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  8. carebearb

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    No one in here wants to get rid of the bankers. They pay for the majority of their stuff. They give them their credit cards, loans, and paper houses and when they inevitably burn to the ground, they can bail them out, start over, and blame the countries problems on the rich or poor and not admit any responsibility.
     
  9. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    All true, but most folks understood that the Bush was hellbent on launching his war. His neocons had been openly pushing for it long before they acquired the power to do so and their fraudulent pretexts, including their relentlessly conflating Iraq with the disparate matter of al Qaeda's 9/11/01 attacks, was a dead give-away. They had acknowledged that Saddam Hussain was irrelevant, and that establishing permanent US military bases in the Persian Gulf region was what they lusted after.

    Thus, a nation is in chaos, and an absurd Vatican City-sized "embassy" stands there as an Ozymandian monument to their hubristic folly.

    Most Democrats in Congress and many in the Senate saw through the Bushies' scam.

    Hillary Clinton has long wished that she had been amongst them.

    Randy can't win the GOP nomination anyway, because he refuses to kowtow to Likud and AIPAC, but he is exploiting Clinton's major vulnerability.
     
  10. mikezila

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    to be honest, she didn't have any choice. what was she going to do after 8 years of her husband's Administration & party screaming that GW's dad should have "finished the job"?
     
  11. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The senior Bush had eloquently explained why, having restored the corrupt al Sabah family to control of Kuwait, continuing to Baghdad would have been disastrous - as junior amply proved.

    As Senator from NY, Hillary's judgement was poor, and attempting to rationalize it now is futile.

    That is why she openly admits it.
     
  12. mikezila

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    would Iraq be any different if the Arab Spring had deposed Saddam instead of swinging around on round 2?
     
  13. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Endless speculation is always an option, but the US taxpayer would have saved between two and three trillion dollars and many lives would have been spared.
     
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    not likely. killing them then means there's less to kill now.
     
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    OMG! Violence against women! Sexist!

    ..........sorry, I'm just warming up for the cliches we'll hear next year.
     
  16. jack4freedom

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    The Clinton's and the Bush's are obviously working for the same entity. I hope that Hillary is beaten by the female Senator from Massachusetts and the GOP nominates Senator Paul. Then we will have a real choice between non whores. However, I suspect that we will have another Bush (Jeb) vs Clinton (Hillary) show in 2016. No choice, just a continuation of the dynasty which has reigned since Reagan was shot in '81 by a friend of GHW Bush.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Warren vs Randy would be delightful. I'd readily bifurcate the position and make her the domestic president and him the foreign affairs one.
     
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    The best way to beat Hillary? Offer a better candidate.






     
  19. goober

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    Rand Paul inherits the mantle of his father, he will win handily in the caucuses, he will lose every primary vote, he will not attract the big money donors, he is the spoiler, who the backers of the guy who comes in second will blame for diverting primary votes that should have been theirs.
    Here's the number the GOP knows too well, RomneyCare favorable/unfavorable after 6 years is 66/33.
    That's why they had the go for broke effort to repeal ObamaCare in the cradle, because they understand that once it takes hold it will become as popular as Medicare or Social Security, and it will morph into single payer.
     
  20. Strasser

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    Hillary isn't going to run; she's now too old to stand up to the job's stress, and she knows it. Her year was 2008, and her own Party leadership tossed her under the bus. I doubt she actually cares if the Democratic Party falls down a well at this point; she just wants to keep raking in speaking fees and book deal and the like, so will make the appropriate noises that get her on talking head shows and whatever.

    National name recognition is only a dozen or so commercials run nationwide away these days; Obama came out of nowhere, relatively, for instance. It's way too early to start picking horses for 2016. The Parties are going to run who they pick for you anyway, so it doesn't matter; you are all going to race down and vote for one of them. The leaders couldn't care less what the peasants think; they don't have to care. And given the ridiculous beliefs and wish lists of the rank and files of both Parties, that's obviously for the best.
     
  21. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Neither the Koch Boys nor Carrot Top Adelson would allow the GOP to nominate a dude who kowtows to neither the corporate elitists nor the AIPAC foreign lobby, but Randy would be a hoot!

     
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    I think we the people should rally to make Sarah Palin run against Hillary. Might as well give Hillary a landslide.
     
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    I think Americans are fed up with Liberals too.
     
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    You have to keep pounding away that she is just an extension of Obama and all his failed foreign policies. And if she wins, is she the president or is it her husband? I have also read that her health isn't so good and she's not getting any younger.
     
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    Hillary has a quick and nasty temper. Valerie Jarrett and Michelle Obama call her the Hildebeast. Remember at the Benghazi hearing when she was angered, she let out the infamous "what difference does it make?" If you get her angry, she will say something very stupid so that Americans see what she is really like.
     

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