Gun extremists fatal flaw

no, i appreciate a good debate.

are you mad because i didn't respond to your post?

 

You ignored facts......

 

Im sorry that you feel like I ignored your post.

I shall review it and respond in time.

 

Your second amendment means a lot of $ for the weapon industry and nra. More than your freedom to bear arms, it defends a lucrative market... the fat crassuses presiding the high chairs don't care about your life.

 

Jump the shark much?

So does the food industry, organized religion, our legal system, the publishing industry, newspapers, magazines, TV networks, the movie industry, etc... So what? Welcome to capitalism. I take pride in the fact that, at least in this country, a gun manufacturer makes money from me buying their products. And I don’t care whether they care about me or not. I assume because they are selling a product that works and does what it’s intended to do, that they at least care about THAT. This does not remove one iota of truth to the fact that I still have a right to ‘keep and bear arms’.

 

Since you responded to later posts, my assumption is that you had no good retort.

 

George Washington disagreed. Your vote will not prevent tyranny.

 

only a gun can prevent and remove tyranny??

lol!!!!!

 

Which is why the citizenry should be armed well enough as a deterrent to the government which is where tyranny usually breeds.

 

this is no good if right-wing extremist bigots use their arms to enforce tyranny

 

Either will your popgun. You merely have the mistaken assumption that it will.

 

How about you do yourself a favor, and cut out your own hyperbole.

It's called the 2nd amendment, it's the law of the land. You loose. So keep throwing your hissy fits, it's not going to help your case.

 

You have no clue why the 2nd was written do you?

 

yeah, and its not absolute.

 

In the United States where citizens have always enjoyed the right to keep and bear arms it is actually those who want to take guns away that would be categorized as extremists.

Words mean things so let us do try and use them correctly.

 

yes, I want to keep guns out of the hands of convicted felons.

God forbid!!

 

I will agree with that. Got any examples of that happening?

 

The founders were careful to call them ARMS. In those days that included swords, pistols, rifle, cannons, rocks, sticks, hatchets, sickles, etc... any device that could be used to fend off tyranny. THE PEOPLE are to be armed so as to never be more armed than the government. People like you and your lack of understanding of history have become used to having it the other way around... trusting a well-armed government as opposed to militias - THE PEOPLE!

 

and what happens when The People use arms to maintain and defend government imposed tyranny, or to prevent the government from eradicating publicly created tyranny?

 

But that's not what we're talking about and you know it. People, as a collective, don't impose tyranny. Collectives desire to be free. Individuals, or small factions that back that individual, with their evil intentions, impose tyranny.

So answer this... what happens if every American is disarmed and you get someone like George Bush in power that intends to install himself as our new dictator and we all must follow his will? You have a well-armed military to impose this on us, and we are unarmed and helpless against it. What then?

In either case, the constitution has that annoying little part in there called the 2nd amendment that PROTECTS our right to keep and bear arms. As long as that's there Americans will have guns. As much as I probably shouldn't, I find it astounding you have more fear in THE PEOPLE than you do in government, when we've seen over and over that it has been governments that have imposed evil on people. Never in the history of the world have you ever seen the people, as a collective, of a country become tyrants. The people have always becomes subjects to tyranny.

 

No you don't, spare us your lies. You want to take guns out of the hands of citizens. Felons can't purchase firearms legally, genius.

 

It's already illegal for convicted felons to own guns so what's your point?

Beyond that, what does your response have to do with my post that you quoted?

 

They only care about the constitution when it involved what they view as their rights. They do not care about defending the rights of people they disagree with.

 

What a stupid comment.

It's you and your ilk that try to restrict freedom at every step. And you have the right to spew such nonsense, just like I have the right to mock you for it.

 

It is a good tool for it. Guns helped to remove Jim Crow.

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I have no problem with that. While I don't like it on theory, I can live with the current NICS system which does stop convicted felons from buying guns from dealers. There is no way to prevent convicted felons from buying guns from private citizens without massive gun registration or gun confiscation.

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Quote Originally Posted by Ronstar View Post
this is no good if right-wing extremist bigots use their arms to enforce tyranny

He doesn't. The one that he claimed--i.e. that guns kept black people down, was shot down. There are no places where right wingers in the U.S. are using arms to enforce tyranny. Historically, guns have been used on the side of freedom.

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Please show us an instance of this? I've already shown where the right to bear arms was used by black civil rights activists to protect themselves from tyranny.

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YOu're right. The liberals don't care about the Constitution unless it involves what they view as their rights.