Rail Transport of Crude Oil Increases as Pipeline Falls Short

Consider this:

ISIS has taken over enough oil fields now that they make 100 million dollars on oil to put towards their terrorist activities. But we can't drill for new oil in America and we can't even build new refineries. Every new energy initiative in America is met with leftwing extremist protests.

And now this story in the news, that Texas is producing more oil than the pipelines can handle, yet Obama won't build the Keyston pipeline (along with its job creation) because of leftwing extremists:

Rail Transport of Crude Oil Increases as Pipeline Falls Short
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/13/u...l-increases-as-pipeline-falls-short.html?_r=0

 

>>>MOD EDIT Off Topic Removed<<< it brings pollution, cancer, tumors, wars... we can run everything without oil, we just need the will to do it.

 

A very silly and pointless post.

Isis sells all of its oil at deep discounts to local smugglers. This won't be too hard to limit. And it is a tiny amount compared to the world market.

ISIS is already in a position where it is totally dependent on extortion of its population and illicit oil production to finance its operations. We can cut off one, and it will inevitabably decline anyway because ISIS has not technical or managerial capability. That leaves local extortion, which is hardly a reliable source of revenue.

I expect this mob will break up in a few months. It has alienated practically the entire Islamic world, not to mention every one else.

It's reach is limited to internet postings, even now.

A strong concerted Western led response, in concert with the support of all the neighboring countries will roll this group up in due course.

Unlike Bush, Obama went to the NATO summit and secured the necessary international support.

 

consider this...Texas refineries are in Texas. Texas oil Fields are in Texas. Keystone, even if completed, would not impact Texas oil. Keystone was never design or proposed to move Texas oil to the Gulf coast.

Texas already has its own network of oil pipelines. Your own NYT article[ Rail Transport of Crude Oil Increases as Pipeline Falls Short] says that is far cheaper and far less of an investment to ship oil by rail than build pipelines.

also...No one, no army, can stop a person with a bomb from blowing up a pipeline. Even if every member of ISIS were killed, that would not end that threat to oil production in the ME.

 

We are drilling for new oil in America.. Our rig count is higher than it has been in 20 years.. and we are in good shape with refineries having recently built some to handle heavy, sour crude from Canada and expanded the Motiva refinery in Texas.

ISIS has temporarily taken over some producing reserves in Kurdish territory of Iraq which produce about 10% of Iraqi crude, but they aren't oilmen and they won't be getting any assistance from the Oil Services companies. In fact many of the oil companies have pulled staff out .. just as they have done in Libya because it is too dangerous.

Have you actually studied job creation and environmental impact of the Keystone? Its certainly not a panacea. Its a tax dodge... because of NAPTHA and the free trade zones in Texas..

 

Can you elaborate on the tax dodge piece?

I think that Keystone XL blundered by listening to their lobbyists and assuming that they could bluster their pipeline through the Sand Hills, and that the Administration would roll over local concerns.

That didn't happen, and the right has been using this as a code word ever since.

It certainly isn't the "jobs program" the conservatives have represented it as being, at least not in the long run.

 

Anyone, that is anyone that promotes big government and government control over almost all aspects of our lives is a danger to America.

 

lol Don't take this the wrong way but this is an absolutely laughable post. Think about what you post my friend. I'm not a democrat either.

 

The Canadians wouldn't pay US taxes to move oil across the US.. and Free Trade zones means the refineries could refine airplane fuel and other petroleum distillates and sell them overseas.. again avoiding taxes.

I am neither for nor against the Keystone.. but I get real sick of the idiots who think it will create lots of jobs.. It won't. If it takes 5,000 workers to build and maintain a pipeline... they are simply a bunch of losers.

 

Climb out of Star Trek and join us on the planet earth. When you build airplanes and battleships and trains that can run on a windmill or a solar panel, let us know. Until then we need oil.

 

CatholicCrusader.....what would you do to dangers to America like ISIS? Specifically? (And please try to avoid "Well, I'll tell you what I wouldn't do"...and more anti-Obama rants)

 

"Texas is producing more oil than the pipelines can handle, yet Obama won't build the Keyston pipeline"

Isn't the Keystone Pipeline intended to bring Canadian oil to the U.S.? How would building this help solve the problem in Texas?

 

"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!"

"Germans?"

"Forget it, he's rolling"

 

Consider this- that claim is laughably false.

http://www.k2tv.com/news.php?id=2204


Workers on the Sims 26-33-71 rig have been kept busy as of late. The drilling rig located just a few miles outside of Douglas, Wyoming is one of many that have become increasingly common in parts of Northern Converse County.

The activity is all part of an oil boom happening in the Southern Powder River Basin.

“This is a new play in that it’s in the shales. Some of it is in the Niobrara, some of it’s in the Turner and the Sussex and the Parkman,” said Petroleum Association President Bruce Hinchey.

Like many other production spikes across the country, new drilling techniques are largely responsible for the increased activity. While hydraulic fracturing has become somewhat of a buzzword in recent years, the practice has been around for over 40 years. However, within the past decade, advancements in drilling technology and fracking techniques have opened up the door for even more oil exploration and development.

If you are wrong about such a basic fact- I will just assume you are just as wrong about everything else.

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Who is building battleships?

 

Yes, I know.

This line is totally ridiculous. But, since the GOP went through the last six years without one single proposal to create jobs, and fought every attempt to do so tooth and nail, they have to make up something.

I am neither for or against it either.

Pipeline construction is booming in this country in any case.

And the bomb trains come right through my town every day (several times a day now).

So, the oil is going to get where it needs to go.

 

So liberals want us to be weaned off of oil. ISIS has oil. If we're weaned off of oil, then ISIS wouldn't have a market for their oil. I'm sorry I'm still confused as to the dangerous part here.

 

Oh, but see the Right is cool with oil.....which is why they want to drill every place from every beach on both coasts to Yellowstone and the Grand Canyon.....because the profits go to Oil Companies (even if they're not American oil companies).

They might not like the Middle East having us by the short hairs selling us oil.....but they'd LOVE Exxon-Mobil or BP having us by the short hairs selling us oil.

 

I doubt that's true. It's just how the money for the companies being raised that's the issue.

 

There you go, injecting reality into a reply to a perfectly idiotic post.

 

Apparently this thread was just a drive by for the OP.

 

IMO, the #1 national security priority should be to eliminate our (and our allies) need for ANY M.E. oil. That includes producing more oil here AND developing any alternative energy technologies that reduce our dependance on foreign oil. Once we no longer have any need for M.E. oil, our interests in the region go down and their economic influence on us (with regards to oil) evaporates. I don't care who makes the profit, we will ALL be better off without the M.E. having us by the oily curlies.

 

Whatcha plan on doing with all the stuff that runs on oil now? How soon can we replace all that stuff with new stuff that runs on wind and the Sun? Where is it?

 

Why would you doubt that that is true?

Look at that these people post here.

You won't see one of them post a bad word about an oil company, and every single one of them yells for more drilling or more coal.

You will see every one of them trash any supports of renewable energy efforts.

And, when you point out that most of the global warming denial organizations are fronts for oil companies, the righties get angry.

 

I have believed that ever since I sat in my first gas line on the fall of 1973,

I am amazed that we are still sucking off the oil teat after two embargos, two wars for oil, and decades of intractactable involvement in a region of the world that no outsider would give a damm about were it not for the fact that large parts of it sit on lakes of oil.

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I would venture to say that if we had spent our money on alternative energy research and development instead of a disasterous war in the Middle East, your question would have been answered a while ago.

 

Just another zany fantasy manifesting the obsessive derangement under which imagined demonic "Liberals!" wreak havoc with the known universe.

Will they ever find a cure?