Guess which person is NOT allowed in Kroger's Grocery Store ! (pic)

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  1. Lord of Planar

    Lord of Planar New Member

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    I agree, but the best thing to do is ignore them, Pretend you didn't even notice. Don't give them what they want.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    As I've said I support the responsible ownership of guns and responsible exercise of second amendment rights.

    If you look through these forums, look at some of the posts....there's more than one threats of violence in "support" of the second amendment.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I'm not making myself very clear on what my thoughts are here.

    There is a difference between taking a weapon into a store because you have it with you at a range and are on foot. And taking a weapon into the store as a way of making a political statement.

    To me it seems more like a statement of "I'll do what I want and there's nothing you can do about it cause I've got the rifle." It reeks of little man syndrome.
     
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    What I don't get is why you don't see that you're being manipulated by the very propaganda generators that are fighting against your 2A rights. Saying or thinking the worst of that picture is exactly what these facists are trying to illicit from the ignorant anti-gun crowd and you, as a responsible gun owner, should know better. This has all been staged to generate hysteria-- don't take part in it... just saying.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    The anti-gun propoganda isn't what has changed my opinion. The pro-gun response is what changed my mind. Because instead of logical disagreement I've seen far to much threatening, posturing, and chest thumping. In response to simple logical measures to prevent guns being legally sold to those who would cause harm with them the pro-gun side respond with irrational rabble.

    That's why I stay to the center of the second amendment issues. Freedom has to be tempered with responsibility.
     
  6. Turok

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    This campaign consists of hollow rhetoric. I think the decision of whether to allow firearms in Kroger ought to be left up to Kroger, not to some Harvard-educated career politician who never worked a day in his life and makes a living telling other people that they have to run their businesses more morally. If Kroger or any other company doesn't trust customers with firearms, then they should be the ones to decide that customers aren't allowed to carry firearms on premises. In my opinion, the government doesn't have the moral right to make that choice for them.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Again...your basing your entire argument around the false idea that my response is based on a single picture.

    Sorry there has been a long history of open carry arguments. So if you're gonna try to prop up a straw man...try harder.
     
  8. 1wiseguy

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    This anti-gun propaganda picture is exactly what this thread is about. The false idea's you are attributing to the picture are all yours.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Again you are dodging here. The points that I have brought up are in no way related to this picture, they are related to everyday life.

    You're poorly attempting to surmise that all of the points that I've brought up originated from the picture in the OP. That is completely false.
     
  10. 1wiseguy

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    So you're made up scenario's and ant-gun propaganda are off topic and I'm the bad guy for keeping them in context and relevant to the topic. Geez. Talk about dodging....

    One thing for sure is that you've proved that it is possible to be against gun owners when you are possibly a gun owner yourself.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, life doesn't happen in a bubble. That's a pretty ridiculous idea of taking a look at something like this that has so many different aspects.

    You can keep trying to play round and round in circles here but its not going to do any good for your argument.
     
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    Correct. But, if your state allows open carry, and you are licensed (if necessary) and the 7-11 franchisee allows it in his or her store, there is no issue. Florida, where I live, does not currently allow open carry, though there's a case winding it's way through the courts that may change that. For CCW holders, a "No firearms allowed" sign is legally meaningless, though if you're asked to leave and don't, you can be charged with trespassing. Of course, that's pretty much true regardless of the reason you were asked to leave.

    Other states make those signs legally binding.
     
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    Wow. Earlier today, I saw a gentleman who appeared to be a civilian open carrying a pistol in a 7-11. I thought it very odd, because open carry is not legal (yet) here in Florida, but I didn't panic. Turns out he was in fact a LEO in a very civilian looking "uniform", so he wasn't violating the law. He WAS, however, using a concealed carry holster for open carry, something that I won't do because it is, IMO, too easy for someone else to grab the weapon. (CC holsters generally don't have any kind of snap or other device that secures the weapon in place. Opinions about that may vary.)
     
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    The only problem I have with someone strapping an AR15 to their back is that it's tactically stupid. In the event you are going to NEED to use it, which fortunately is rare, by the time you unsling it and attempt to bring it on your target, it's probably going to be too late. It needs to be slung in front, properly, where you can engage it extremely quickly if the need arises.
     
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    Is there any real problem with open carry of AR15s in Kroger (or any other grocery) store(s)?
     
  16. Turok

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    Nobody asks Kroger what they think about it.
     
  17. 1wiseguy

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    Talk about going in circles... too funny. At least I have an argument and not inane, false, fabricated scenario's about the bogeyman coming to get you! :roflol:

    There are millions of us out here who are armed, sleep well! :)
     
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    I sleep just fine with my ruger in my nightstand.

    Sorry for being a voice of reason to someone who clearly doesn't care about it.
     
  19. 1wiseguy

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    Unloaded, trigger lock installed and with the ammo in a box in the top shelf of your closet, no doubt! :roflol:

    If by the use of the word "reason" you mean : "a statement presented in justification or explanation of a belief " as in an "excuse" then you would be correct. I care more for the reality and clarity of logic and not for the ramblings of irrational and random thoughts given as scenarios. :)
     

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