New York Passes Law to Weaken the Self Defense of the Law Abiding

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  1. Capitalism

    Capitalism Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Slippery slopes, VERY slippery slopes we are headed down.
     
  2. Capitalism

    Capitalism Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a waist to post evidence, they'll say its a Far Right site. (Had the same issue with illegal immigration and terrorism)
     
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    And never mind that the links came from both lib and con sources.

    First the 'lib' links.

    http://www.news10.com/story/2492073...ved-threats-for-participating-in-gun-giveaway

    http://www.usnews.com/debate-club/s...nd-amendment-threatens-our-safety-and-liberty

    Then the impartial link ... from ask.com

    http://www.ask.com/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

    Now from the one con source (which in fact quoted liberal sources)

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/specials/second-amendment-and-gun-control/

    The fact is, it's never a 'waste' to post the proof... because invariably some one will demand that proof anyway.
     
  4. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I want you to remember that argument you just made when states restrict abortions to under 20 weeks or less
    they are not taking away your rights for abortion they are just shortening the time you can have one
     
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    What is it about New Yorkers that makes them think that things in smaller volume containers changes anything? 32oz. soft drinks or 13 round clips. are easily replaced by 2-16's and 2-7's. WTF?
     
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    So, you feel that you could take out seven people who are shooting at you with seven rounds.

    The liberal horde doesn't see gun ownership or self defense as a right,, they see it as a responsibility that the Republicans and conservatives are trying to may them asset. To defined yourself you have to take actions that they don't want to take. They would rather cry and blame the gun that the criminal used to kill their kids but excuse the killer because it was miss treated as a child or it just wanted some crack money.

    So in HY state, if someone steals your car and runs for the law at high speed do you get a speeding ticket and have to pay for whatever damage the criminal does with your car??

    That is because dems relate to criminals more than they care about the victims of crime.

    I'll bet you a case of your favorite ammo that this is stupid law is held to be unconstitutional by the USSC.

    {quote]I'm sure your obviously a good shot, so if your in NY, you'll be able to kill 7 people; reload and repeat the process if need be. The police get there when they get there and will take names.[/QUOTE]Are you that ignorant or just being obtuse. We all know that it took at least six shoots to kill M Brown. A person shot through the heart at close range with a 9MM can live for a few minutes and if on drugs they can still shoot at you so the best shot on the planet would have trouble stopping seven people with seven rounds. With no gun at all the rapists can take their time tying your family to their beds. I remember one case where the criminals raped two your girls and then set them on fire. They were in a liberal state so those guys are being fed and housed by the state for the rest of their lives. Unless the guys behave themselves and promise not to do it again.
     
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    Both you and I will have to agree to disagree on this thread.
     
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    You are not required to register a car to OWN it only to use it on puplic roads.

    Same with guns and that is as it should be. Yes sometimes criminals form groups called gangs apparently you never watch the news
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What does abortion rights have to do with the amount of ammo you can carry with you?
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except for the complete obliteration of your argument, maybe.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With the proper training, yes.


    What do you mean by "stupid"?

    When you decide to stop your petty partisan attacks, let me know, then perhaps I'll debate you, otherwise find another venue to give your viewpoint; i'm sure you'll find someone else to hear what you have to say. :roflol:
     
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    because it is the same argument a state cant do any type of restrictions on abortion with out the left screaming rights are being taken away but when restrictions are put on our second amendment rights all of a sudden restrictions are not in violating of those rights
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Other than registration, I would support such a law in my state if it were on the ballot. Do away with those damn idiotic Stand Your Ground laws that allow people to gun down lost Alzheimer's patients, and I will reconsider. Until those are gone, I am willing to go even further with gun control than I otherwise would.
     
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    I disagree with you. It has no bearing on restrictions on ammo regardless how you couch it.
     
  16. SiNNiK

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    You are mistaken. You can not.

    Even the FBI, who are among the best in the business, hold that their own field agents are expected to hit their target once out of every seven rounds while under duress, such as being fired upon.

    If you do manage to hit all seven targets with seven rounds, you will be very lucky. Or you are hickok45 from youtube. :/

    Please please please, educate yourself.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I disagree; if you practice enough, even under stressful conditions, you can take out one person with one shot. Carefully aimed shots will hit their mark.
     
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    The actual exact wording from the report:

    "The Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws or combinations of laws reviewed on violent outcomes. (Note that insufficient evidence to determine effectiveness should not be interpreted as evidence of ineffectiveness.)"
     
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    What you need are good scriptwriters.
     
  20. domer76

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    I wondered how long it would take for someone to invoke the forever-lame analogy between guns and cars.
     
  21. SiNNiK

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    Indeed.
     
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    Wait. I thought a weapon in your home was the ultimate protection!
     
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    Only an individual who is uneducated about what it means to take your own personal safety and the safety of your family seriously would think so.
     
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    Your family is more likely to be injured with your popgun than protected by it. Look it up.
     
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    Gamewell: you digging up fossilized threads? You could at least dig up a palin one so i can tap-dance all over it. :grin:
     

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