Russia to extend media controls to keep out foreigners

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by ArmySoldier, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Your error is to believe that the news agencies you mentioned offer a genuine plurality of views and pespectives. I've got news for you, they don't.
     
  2. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you don't watch the american channels obviously. they sure as hell do provide a plurality of views, you just have to watch each one seperately. ;-)
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,464
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    neither does Russia Today or Ria Novosti.

    they're both just Putinista govt. crap.
     
  4. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Non sequitur.
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,464
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    its absurd to think the BBC and CNN are lies, but Russia Today is the absolute truth.
     
  6. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
    No they don't. The parameter of different viewpoints is so narrow as to be laughable. Western media censorship is more defined by its omission of narratives as opposed to other forms of crude propaganda.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Irrelevant red-herring since I never claimed RT is absolute truth. Mod edit, flounder 2
     
  7. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,464
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    personal attack reported
     
  8. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yes, now please engage with the topic as opposed to introducing strawmen and logical fallacies. Thanks.
     
  9. Izverg

    Izverg Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2011
    Messages:
    1,182
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    0
    [video=youtube;NE18iPQ1Euk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE18iPQ1Euk[/video]
     
  10. freemarket

    freemarket New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2014
    Messages:
    3,310
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Now that's hilarious. Thanks.
     
  11. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2013
    Messages:
    19,296
    Likes Received:
    7,607
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If y'wanna see a controlled News Media,
    Just review coverage of the suffering in Eastern Ukraine by
    BBC, PBS, MSNBC, Fox, PBS, CBS, etc. etc.

    Our hydra form news is less independent, less investigative journalistic than we in the West expect.
    Why hydra? Our news is all coming from the same body via different talking heads, y'see.
    How did it morph such?
    Where oh where is the Edward R. Morrow ? Inspiring Al Jazeera methinks. :blankstare:

    How do you suppose Western News media is kept in line ?
    Oh, I don't know, :wink: :wink: maybe with such pressures as
    shutting them out when more cooperative News groups are invited to press releases, conferences and such.
    There are ways !


    GOT FREEDOM ?
    LESS & LESS !

    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


     
  12. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This is a must read:

    www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/...-of-soviet-and-western-media-performance.html

    Moreover, Craig Murray emphasizes the nature of mainstream media propaganda in its attempts at augmenting the interests of the establishment as it pertains to the referendum in Scotland:

    www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/09/channel-4-censorship/

    In the link below, Murray highlights how political discourse is differentiated only by public relations and personality as opposed to ideology. The lack of any objective differences between the main political parties isn't an issue as far as the media is concerned:

    www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/09/the-three-amigos-ride-to-scotland/

    Western mainstream media is anything but impartial and the notion that it represents a genuine plurality of ideas is a complete joke.
     
  13. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
  14. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,452
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I watch FOX, CNN, MSNBC, RT, BBC and CBC to consistently if not always frequently.

    I disagree with your assessment, although I find that generally, omissions have more to do with priority and air time than they do with deliberate censorship.

    Regrettably especially with cable news, they latch on to some story/issue and run it into the ground if they think it will help their ratings.
    CNN had what seemed like hundreds of hours on the Malaysia airliner that disappeared for instance. FIX foxated on Benghazi ad nauseum. MSNBC tried to do the same with "bridgegate".
     
  15. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Personally, I find CNN to be far more informative and wide-ranging with a far more internationalist approach then anything in the UK media, accept perhaps Channel 4 News. That's not a reflection of how good CNN is but rather how bad an outlet like the BBC is which I regard as little more than an organ of establishment power. If anybody needs confirmation of this, then all that is required is to have seen their (hardly disguised) anti-Scottish independence stance over the last couple of months. Their coverage has been an utter disgrace and is in direct contravention of their Charter.
     
  16. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    You do know that 60% of all the media and press in the U.S. are owned by six corporations, this is why we keep getting the same spins and lies in all of them. When you have read one you have read them all so why even bother. It's known as brainwashing. By the way the BBC also follows the Washington line.

    Vladimir Putin wants to secure Russia's sovereignty and national interests by not allowing foreign entities to own more than forty percent. He's protecting the rights of the Russian people, now wouldn't it be nice if our own president could do the same? Unfortunately it's too late, because those who own the media now own the minds of the American people. :wall:

     
  17. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,464
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    just because the info doesn't follow your Putinist Imperialist views, doesn't mean they are lies.
     
  18. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Army Soldier - What you posted is a perfect example of the BBC's brainwashing methods. They made a special report on Russia and how it was limiting foreign ownership of its media and press as if it was something that was out of the ordinary, but what it left out is that they were bringing it up to par with the other nations. By doing so the BBC gave their readers a very lop sided view of Russia....which of course was their intent:


    "...Both MPs added that the bill is in line with international practice as many countries in the world had already protected their informational space from excessive foreign influence. For example, Australia has set a 30 percent limit of foreign ownership in national mass media and Canada has a law limiting foreign ownership in electronic mass media by 46 percent.

    The United States allow foreigners to control not more than 25 percent of American TV and radio stations, which Japan has set this limit at 20 percent. France will not allow non-EU citizens and companies to possess more than 20 percent of its mass media. In the UK the shares of foreign stockholders in mass media corporations cannot exceed those owned by British investors.
    ..."

    http://rt.com/politics/188376-russia-media-foreign-stock/
     
  19. Pronin24

    Pronin24 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2014
    Messages:
    4,106
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Did you notice, Russians are I this forum? They get all the news worldwide from more diverse sources then you do.
     
  20. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You are missing the point. What Jeannette is saying is that a high concentration of media ownership within corporate hands inevitably leads to a high level of disinformation. In other words, the issue is a structural one.
     
  21. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,464
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    what's missing is that America is a free society, and there is no evidence of daily corporate interference & manipulation of local, national, international news stories and OP/EDs.

    this is America....NOT Russia. We actually value freedom of speech and thought.


    even when its offensive and insulting.
     
  22. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You don't understand the extent to which corporate power is corrosive and detrimental to the values you espouse and by extension democracy itself.
     
  23. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,464
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    excellent sophistry.

    let us know when you actually have evidence of persistent corporate interference and manipulation of local, state, national, and international news for the MANY news outlets they own.
     
  24. trout mask replica

    trout mask replica New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    12,320
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Like I say, you don't get it.
     
  25. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,464
    Likes Received:
    14,677
    Trophy Points:
    113
    oh, I do get it.

    I get that you have no evidence, just baseless and paranoid speculation that the evil corporations are controlling every single message we get from the news.

    ;)
     

Share This Page