N.Y. farm will no longer host weddings rather than allow same-sex ceremonies

You might as well forget it. Many homosexuals refuse to believe that the Bible is against homosexuality and call it nothing more than propaganda.

You will NOT achieve anything with them.

 

Okay, stjames1_52 thinks I am an abomination. Doesn't really make much difference to me.

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You are 100% correct. I know better than what he is posting. He can't win.

 

Because many who think as you do attempt to use your beliefs to influence the laws to negatively impact people who don't think as you do. Objection to same sex marriage exists for one reason, and one reason alone. Because xtian don't like it, and want it banned on religious grounds. The only problem is, being honest about that and you'll get laughed out of court in a millisecond, so y'all come up with some non-religious messaging that is only slightly less laughable and run with that.

 

Then again many Christians refuse to believe that the Bible is against a remarriage after a divorce- and consider Reagan and Gingrich model Republicans and Christians anyway.....

You will not achieve anything with them....

 

Why should I care what your god thinks of me? I don't believe in your god.

 

Really, and how many people have Christians murdered, beheaded, tortured, or threatened to kill (within the past 2 years) because someone criticized Jesus?

 

How many ?

 

Being facetious?

 

self-justification is another one of those free will things. Self-righteous practices and belief that you are better than God....sure 'nuff....
Let's take a quick peek...Homosexuals only constitute 2% of the population. You would think that if it were ok, the percentage would be better, say like 20%.
But 98% of the world disagrees with you, that same-sex is not in their best interest, or personal choice. But it's not just people. Most religions have tenents against same sex relationships, in most countries. So, it's not only the Christians. Stand in a mosque and demand that they accept and approve of the same-sex relationships.
We've been going around and around on this and I'll never agree with any of it. It is not normal just because it is normal to you.
Insanity is sanity to some.
And you cannot claim that 98% of the population is insane.
The numbers are against that.

 

so you equate 98% of the population not being homosexual as being against homosexuality .. what a crock of crap.

In America alone a Gallup poll conducted in May 2014 found that 55% of Americans support allowing marriage for same-sex couples, the largest percentage ever measured by the organization. The same poll found only 42% opposed, and 4% had no opinion on the issue.- http://www.gallup.com/poll/169640/sex-marriage-support-reaches-new-high.aspx

A Pew Research Center poll released in March 2014 researched support for same-sex marriage among Republican leaning voters in the United States. 61% of Republican leaning voters aged 18–29 support allowing same-sex couples to marry, while only 27% of Republican leaning voters over 50 years of age are supportive. 52% of Republican voters aged 18–50 support same-sex marriage.

http://www.dailytexanonline.com/new...-young-conservatives-accept-same-sex-marriage
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/04/21/anti-gay-marriage-sentiment-fading/

A Washington Post/ABC News poll from February–March 2014 found a record high of 59% of Americans approve of same-sex marriage, with only 34% opposed and 7% with no opinion. The poll also revealed that 53% of the population in the States that currently do not allow same-sex couples to marry approve of same-sex marriage. 50% of respondents said that the United States Constitution guarantees the freedom to marry the person of one's choice, regardless of that persons's sex or sexual orientation. 41% disagreed, and 9% had no opinion. The same poll also found that 81% of people found that businesses should not be allowed to refuse to serve gays and lesbians. 16% disagreed, and 3% had no opinion. 78% thought that gay couples can be "just as good parents" as straight couples, while 18% disagreed and 4% had no opinion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...37e87e-a3e5-11e3-a5fa-55f0c77bf39c_story.html
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/pa...ch-2014-politics-obama-and-2014-midterms/855/

Define normal. normal is what ever the majority accept and that changes .. slavery was "normal", do you then agree that slavery was moral at that time?
Rape within marriage was "normal", do you accept that rape within marriage was moral at that time?

To try and justify something as wrong just because it doesn't adhere to the current standard of what is "normal" is a very very weak argument.

As to the insanity plea, then not so long ago people with depression were designated as insane.. I suppose you think that was moral as well.

You have used two of the weakest arguments known in order to try and justify your opinion.

 

Please collect your thoughts before posting.

You seem too be the only person here talking about being better than God. Stop projecting.

Yeah homosexuals only constitute 2%. Your point "because there aren't more they must be wrong." Is called appealing to the majority. That is logical fallacy.

So, religions can and are wrong from time to time. Stand in a mosque and demand that they accept Jesus as their Lord and savior. I don't think that is a valid argument.

So, don't agree, you don't have to.

Your opinion of normal is noted.

I never made any such claim, nothing even close to that. You misrepresented my position grossly. Never have I seen a weaker straw man.

Look dude, believe what you want, I personally don't care. You have the right to your opinion and I don't really wish to convince you of anything. You just aren't going to get anywhere telling me what you think the bible says. My theology is sound, I don't believe you have any.

 

That would be because the bible doesn't actually state it is against homosexuality, it is only the bad interpretation of the bible by those with preconceived assumptions that allows this blatant misrepresentation.

 

Not only is it garbage, it's logical fallacy.
A maiore ad minus

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_maiore_ad_minus

Failure to produce a logical argument is a flaw that cannot be over looked. These anti Ssm types are notorious for them.

He made several in his latest post.

 

no, I said 98% aren't homosexuals. Therefore, you are less than a minority. Homosexuals are a aberration.

 

Explain why I should give a damn if I'm a minority. Because "You're a small, different group and therefore bad" is the logic of a schoolyard bully and entirely unconvincing to anyone who matured past that.

 

So you didn't say "But 98% of the world disagrees with you"

and of course the figure you spout is only found through people who self-identify as being homosexual, so in likely hood the figure is probably a lot closer to 20% than 2%.

You also skip all the other items in my reply, can you not dig up a misrepresentation or distortion for your reply.

 

nope, it is a published fact that the homosexual population is only comprised of approx 2% of the worlds population. the rest is assumption on your part coupled with a bit of wishing it were so.

 

Yes you did, post#459

Link to source please.

what is assumption, the 20%, not according to the National Bureau of Economic Research

According to a study from the National Bureau of Economic Research, about 20 percent of the population is attracted to their own gender. That’s nearly double the usual estimates of about 10 percent. - http://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/gender-society/u-s-attitudes-toward-lgbt-community#

what is not assumption is that ALL polls taken comprise of only those who self identify as homosexual.

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-05-01/news/mn-52731_1_gay-community/2

 

Please address my point. Why does it matter if queer people are a minority? Why does that make us bad in your point of view?

 

What is your point?

 

gays are an anomaly, and aberration. They are militant. They serve no useful purpose in the gene pool, They cannot contribute to the gene pool naturally.
If I used the "queer" word, you guys would be demanding the staff have my head on a platter, but you can use it freely.
This is my point. They are hetero haters and will destroy that which they cannot convert, much like the Mooslim extremists.
Go stand in a market place in the Mideast and announce your dedication to the "queer" cause and tell us how it works out. Christians are not the only ones who are anti-gay........
back to that militant thing. Ya'll [sic] wanted to destroy Chic Fillet. Recall that? They gays applauded the owner's recent passing....and now , here you are, ganging up on another detractor like a bunch of thugs.........
and yet I still stand...........

 

as usual, your feint at ignorance only makes your case weaker..........

 

Jews are less than 1% of the population. Should we be outlawed? Do we have rights?

 

This post is so full of disgusting bigotry I had to wash my computer after reading it.

 

good...............
Your words are wasted on me. I am shameless...............carry on with your cleaning..........