Ceasefire in Ukraine is not popular, because it did not solve the problem. This is just a freeze of the conflict and the time works against the Maidan junta in Kiev. Yatsenyuk understands it very well and he is steaming again: http://news.msn.com/world/ukraine-pm-slams-putin-ceasefire-again-under-strain-in-east-Ukraine He knows that Ukraine is slipping away from their grip. Why? Because Ukrainians do not like the Maidan junta imposed on them by EU and USA. Look at the nature of "propaganda" from Russian side. Russia is accepting everyone who surrender or defects with open arms, everyone (except fascists, of course) is given a choice to stay in Russia or go home to the west. Nobody can hide the fact. Treating Ukrainian's like brothers is a very efficient form of propaganda. Sending humanitarian aid convoys is stronger then firearms. What Porko and Yats can offer? They have killed over 2000 civilians and now they want to get away with it.
My understanding is there really is no cease fire that there are a lot of fires and smoke coming from around the airport in Donetsk
Vladimir Putin's humanity and desire for peace had him put forward a cease fire, but it seems our Washington sociopaths manipulated his desire for no more bloodshed, when their intentions all along to have more sanctions. By attacking the Russian oligarchs in the sanctions, who are only concerned about their pockets and who lean towards the West, they were hoping to have a coup and put Medvedev at the head in Russia. It didn't matter to them of course that Putin's popularity rating is 84% because democracy is only a word to be used when it's politically expedient to the Washington powers that be. And if Russia was to have problems like Ukraine because of the coup, all the better for the U.S. and its corporations. They would be better able to buy up the country. Anyway there is an excellent and very worrisome article translated from Russian in: http://slavyangrad.org/ Washington's alternative to the coup is war. No one trusts Obama when it comes to bombing ISIS, and they believe that it's only a ruse so he can bomb Assad's forces and probably Damascus...which means Assad will need assistance from Russia. More than likely the U.S. will also be starting some covert action to get Russia involved in some kind of war the way they tried in Ukraine.
Poroshenko has formed a division whose job it is to kill anyone who surrenders or defects. Well according to Greekdefense.net, yesterday they shot thirty Ukrainian troops. These men usually surrender because they have no water and food and are really being sent there to die...yet if they try to escape to Russia, they are shot. It seems like ethnic cleansing on both ends of Ukraine. They're killing the men off from Western Ukraine while their propaganda keeps arousing them against Russia. I think Poroshenko is trying to stop the men from going home and telling the other Ukrainians what's going on at the front. Boy when they say that Ukraine is owned and run by a mafia, they are right...and the U.S. of course is helping them right along. ..after all how else can our corporations grab its wealth?
I have to say farewell. This forum has like no credibility at all. Peeps like Jeannette, all due respect, flood the forums all the time, with total nonsenses. I was looking more like objective place with less hate, also spamming disinformation is unjust. Good luck
Get over yourself, this is one of the best forums on the internet. The guy's link is from MSN. Sure it's not perfect but Internet forums never are.
Excellent support. Indeed, people are never perfect, used to it. Ukraine has a volunteer battalion named Aidar: "The Aidar battalion is among some 50 “volunteer” units that constitute a vital part of the “Anti-Terrorist Operation” in eastern Ukraine mounted by the government of President Petro Poroshenko. Amnesty does not state the political affiliations of the Aidar battalion, whose motto is “God is with us”, although it is described elsewhere as extreme-right. Like numerous other fascist organisations, its members were active in the Maidan protests sponsored by Washington and Berlin that ousted former President Viktor Yanukovych in February." This battalion is specializing on extermination of "undesirables" in Ukraine. Remember what was on buckles of the Third Recih soldiers? "Got mit uns". This is what became Aidar's slogan. Read reports about human rights abusers in Ukraine. People are not perfect, alas!
Q. When is a cease-fire not a cease-fire? A. When the Ukrainians have anything to do with it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://en.ria.ru/world/20140921/193...s-Continue-Attacks-in-Donbas-but-Only-to.html KIEV, September 22 (RIA Novosti) -Ukrainian Special Forces continue shelling against Donbas independence supporters, but "only to neutralize" the militia's firing points, the press office of the so-called "anti-terrorist operation" wrote in a statement. "ATO forces adhere to the ceasefire regime, causing destruction to the enemy only to neutralize their firing points," the statement said Saturday. According to the press office, Ukrainian forces have fired against the militia's sites in a number of villages in the Donetsk Region.
I present my so called 'nonsense' with references. You're free to debate what I say with your own references. I bet you can't, that's why you're chickening out.
President of Ukraine in parliament. "By force of habit." And in the background familiar faces. Is not it?
What can be expected, if ceasefire will hold on for years? This means that NATO and EU goals are not achieved. Novorussia with her autonomous status will be a constant brake to Kiev. People of this and other parts of Ukraine will have a voice in the government and they will vote. The Maidan junta goals are not achieved either. What they are going to do? Will centrist Porko will stay in power?
this calls for double punishment, fascists will never change much like in 1938, you blame slavic people,meanwhile occupying their territory [video=youtube;hprV2nQRvbc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=hprV2nQRvbc[/video]
According to the Washington Blog, Russia said that it does not want the Donbas to become a part of Russia, but it is not something you will find in our press. How would they be able to write about Russian aggression and expansionism if the people knew that?. Another thing the blog mentioned is that there will be a thirty mile demarcation line between Nuvorussiya and Ukraine, sort of like North and South Korea.
This is one interesting point. Is existence of South Korea a violation of territorial integrity of Korea?
Excellent picture. Better then words, Ukrainian neo Nazi trained everyone and Porko is their obedient puppet. Heil! Heil! Heil. Zig Heil! And two dummies are standing right behind...
What I would like to know is why Poroshenko was getting so much applause in the Senate when they knew everything he was saying is a lie. Could it be because .... 1 - They were Democrats and had to give him credibility for internal political reasons. 2- They wanted to give him credibility to the other nations in the world. 3 - They had to please Biden's Byzantine Catholic constituents. 4 - They had to please Biden's Polish constituents. 5 - They had to please Zbigniew Brzezinski 6 - They had to please George Soros 7- They had to please the Khaganate of Nulandstan 8 - They had to please Aipac. 9 - They had to please Burisma Holdings/Kolomoisky for the money he's been giving them. 10- They wanted the Ukrainian people to see how much support he was getting from Washington. 11 - They wanted to show Russia how much they supported him. 12 - They wanted to show that it doesn't matter what people are or what they do, even genocide as long as they do what Washington wants. Anyway to hear Poroshenko say one lie after the other, and to hear the applause from a Senate which knows very well he was committing genocide and ethnic cleansing, was absolutely sickening. Whatever ever happened to integrity? Is this the kind of democracy we want to impose on the world? Seems more like some kind of a cult to me?
A volunteer from the USA: "I came to help Novorossia gain independence" (video) [video=youtube;vflmOXEyBoE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vflmOXEyBoE[/video]
