The Utter Failure of Obama

How many trillion dollar occupations has President Obama gotten us involved with now that we're nearly at the 1/2 way mark of his 2nd term?

 

You asked a nonsensical question with little to no bearing on the conversation at hand. There's a reason statistics don't typically use raw numbers. The raw numbers show no context to the situation at hand.

Another example:

Which is worse: 2 murders in a town that has 200 inhabitants, or 10 murders in a city with over 2,000,000?

 

And yet:

 

Speaking of lying, feel free to point out even one item on the list you contend is false and why.

 

No, it isn't. It perfectly illustrates the difference between Reagans debt and Obamas debt. You know this and that is why you refuse to answer. I also knew you would be incapable of answering for that reason. Take solace in the fact that I know that you were forced to do a little math and didn't like the answer. Now if youll excuse me Im going to go stand over there >>>>>.

 

Thank you for demonstrating that not even one item on the list if false.

Funny how conservatives credit Reagan or Bush for positive things that happened when they were president, but for Obama, he must have had nothing to do with it.

Being a political ideologue is easy when you have blatant double standards.

 

On May 2, 2011, Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden is killed by U.S. Special Forces during an early morning (approximately mid-afternoon on May 1st in the United States) raid in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/09/world/death-of-osama-bin-laden-fast-facts/

Thanks for proving my point. You can't even identify one item that is false.

 

Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 142,000 in August, and the unemployment rate was little changed at 6.1 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

Thanks for proving my case. You can't identify even one item that is wrong, much less all lies as you falsely accuse me.

 

It illustrates nothing. It completely lacks context and is a dishonest misrepresentation of the situation at hand. Far from refusing to answer, I provided an answer, it just wasn't the one you wanted.

 

No I pointed out how you gave credit to Obama for stuff he had nothing to do with. He didn't reduce spending. The Democrats didn't even have a budget for the first 4 years he was in office and all of Obama's bills were rejected by even his own party. Spending reductions were entirely because the House wouldn't pass spending increases.

Oil production went up on PRIVATE land and down on FEDERAL land. Obama restricted drilling on federal land so if anything oil production would have been higher if not for him.

Then you repeat the same points multiple times trying to bloat your list which was already full of bull(*)(*)(*)(*) to make it look even longer.

This isn't the first time I have torn you stupid talking points to shreds and yet you keep insisting on copy/pasting it over and over again. You are by far the laziest political hack working for the DNC I have ever seen. At least try and come up with new material for crying out loud.

 

The GOP is way too hard on Obama. I am not a big fan but credit is due where credit is due. Cleaning up the mess that Bush Jr. made was a huge task.

I have not checked the history but it has been awhile since a president was handed a budget deficit that equaled 66% of income 1.4 Trillion deficit/2.1 Trillion revenue.

If anything the GOP should be embarrassed for putting the village idiot in the White House and should have rallied around the new President (Black, White, Red, Yellow, Male, Female, Alien?) to try and clean up the massive mess the Bush admin made.

The history books will not be kind to Bush. Obama will do pretty well.

 

I didn't say Obama got him all by himself, or did anything else on the list all by himself.

But if the Commander-in-Chief had not issued the order to execute the mission into Pakistan, what would have happened?

Right.

We'd still be at "we'll git 'im, dead or alive".

 

Feel free to back up your claims and point out even one item on the list you claim is false and why.

It's amazing how much ignorance is demonstrated by many conservatives in these threads. They are so full of bull(*)(*)(*)(*) fed to them by RW propaganda they don't even know what's going on and when they see the truth, think it must be lies.

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LOL, you've never shown even one item on the list is false.

CBO estimates that ARRA’s policies had the following effects in the fourth quarter of calendar year 2010:

o Raised real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product (GDP) by between 1.1 percent and 3.5 percent,

o Lowered the unemployment rate by between 0.7 percentage points and 1.9 percentage points,

o Increased the number of people employed by between 1.3 million and 3.5 million, and

o Increased the number of full-time-equivalent jobs by 1.8 million to 5.0 million compared with what would have occurred otherwise, as shown in Table 1. (Increases in FTE jobs include shifts from part-time to full-time work or overtime and are thus generally larger than increases in the number of employed workers.

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/22032

Non-partisan analysis by IHS, Macroeconomic advisers, and Moody's also show job creations by the stimulus in the 2.1-2.5 million range.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/cea_5th_arra_report.pdf page 16.

*CBO: Between 1.3 million and 3.6 million jobs saved or created.
*IHS/Global Insight: 2.45 million jobs saved or created.
*Macroeconomic Advisers: 2.3 million jobs saved or created.
*Moody’s Economy.com: 2.5 million jobs saved or created.

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/...or-says-stimulus-failed-get-people-back-work/

You can argue anything you want. It doesn't change the fact that Obama has the lowest rate of spending increases on any president in modern US history.

Even one would be a shock.

 

Well let's see... ObL was killed in Pakistan so going by standard right-wing military "logic," we probably would've invaded Iran.

 

Im going to stand back over there <<<<<<< please don't follow me unless you plan on answering my question. Im sure that works with your leftist chums but it will never work with me.

 

And people tell me I choose the to believe untrue sources. The BLS Bureau of Labor Statistics has been lying about the true unemployment for the last 6 years. Part time jobs were never included as part of employment until Barack Obama became president. Explain the economy that is still equal to the 1930's depression era?

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And people tell me I choose the to believe untrue sources. The BLS Bureau of Labor Statistics has been lying about the true unemployment for the last 6 years. Part time jobs were never included as part of employment until Barack Obama became president. Explain the economy that is still equal to the 1930's depression era?

 

The difference is that Reagan inherited a $70 billion deficit and tripled it, while Obama inherited a $1.4 trillion deficit and it's been cut in half.

 

Again. Your "question" lacks context and simply demonstrates the right-wing's propensity for "black and white" thinking; a dishonest attempt to frame the discussion in rudimentary and simplistic terms to support your ridiculous assertion.

 

Wow, you're opining that Obama has had nothing to do with the positive accomplishments we've had since he took office? What a shocker.

I never claimed Obama did everything on the list all by himself. I've listed accomplishments since Obama took office.

Which you've helpfully demonstrated that not even one item is false and all the facts listed are true.

And IMO, had Obama been a white Republican, conservatives would be hailing him as a savior.

Feel free to back up and prove your baseless accusation that I copied that list from somewhere, or that I work for the DNC.

How easily so many conservatives will turn to making baseless, knowingly false claims, assertions and accusation when they light of truth is shown upon their false beliefs.

 

It wasn't my claim. And I've already said all I'm going to say about your list.

I will comment on your behavior though. You jump to conclusions, swear too much, and you are continuously prickly, unpleasant and offensive without cause. I'm starting to think you demonstrated great insight in choosing your icon to be a wet cat.





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Thanks for sharing your opinion. It certainly is not uncommon amongst our conservative friends to attribute a gigantic conspiracy to the government whenever the data does not support their ideological beliefs. Funny though, the data is just fine with them when it supports their positions. It's easier being a partisan ideologue when you employ blatant double standards.

However, it is a fact that the US Govt agency which publishes the unemployment data states the UR is 6.1%, just as stated in my list.

Thanks for once again proving my point that you cannot show even one item on my list is false.

 

Yes hes cut his own spending comparing Obama to Obama so his deficit has gone down meanwhile he has charged more money than any human being in mankinds recorded history with nothing to show for it.
A person who charges 40k one month and 30k the next month has reduced their deficit spending.
A person who charged 50 bucks one month and a hundred the next month has increased their deficit spending but doesn't necessarily need to borrow money to pay the 150 dollar debt. The person who charged 40k one month and 30k the next month will never be able to pay their debt without borrowing money from someone else, even though they dropped their deficit spending.
Obama has burdened children who haven't even been born and their great great great great children. Again with nothing to show for it except another war in the middle east.

 

Hard-left versus hard-right idiots.

WAKE UP.

Each and every time there is an opportunity to act as Americans, and to speak the truth, you people choose to act as
Democrats
or
Republicans
or
Left-wingers
or
Right-wingers instead.
And you do not speak the truth, you bark the Party line.

And it the end, the crooks in Washington DC continue to pull their bull$hit gambits and exercise their unwieldy power, and tax-and-spend this nation deeper and deeper into crippling debt. (The whole while lining their pockets with gold, hooking their friends up with sweetheart deals, and paying back their political contributors with kickbacks, cash, and government contracts.)

You people take your eye off the ball, and these crooks (from both Parties) continue to rape you right up the a$$.

Dumb-$hits.

 

Thanks for sharing your opinion. My opinion is that the sophomoric and baseless ad homs you regularly spew because you cannot engage in meaningful discussion aren't worth much consideration.

 

Im going to go stand back over there >>>>>> Please keep following me. I love knowing I got to people.