The Utter Failure of Obama

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  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've already pointed out that in effect blaming Obama for the Great Recession which caused the increase in debt when he took office is beyond lame.

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    Do you *really* care about the debt? Good for you. Write your Republican Tea Party reps and tell them to increase taxes on the wealthiest to get the deficit back to a surplus.
     
  2. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So now that you've insulted everyone in the thread, tell us your better alternative.
     
  3. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Makes perfect sense. After insinuating that my list is bogus, you've failed to show even one item is wrong or false. The only thing you pointed to was Bin Laden, and I proved that indeed we got Bin Laden under Obama.
     
  4. Johnny-C

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    Well, you can believe what you want, but I first served under President Carter and President Obama's signature is on my Certificate of Retirement.

    I'm not your average troop.

    But really, President Obama is a good President. I served under him for 6 years and saw that he did what he could to make things better.

    The fact that he's over-criticized because he's Black... is something that ALL Americans will eventually have to work out in their own consciences and souls. By all other measures as a President, I think he's STELLAR.
     
  5. Omnipotent

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    Umm... I didn't dispute OBL was captured while Obamurr was in office. Quite the contrary, I said that was the only thing he should be credited for with respect to OBL's capture, was the fact he happened to be in office when the capture took place. The actual capture and all events leading up to it, Obamurr had little to zero contribution.
     
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    And Mitt Romney didn't run every Staples, either. But just as President Obama has, he exercised the authority of his office. And surely, Mr. Obama has used his authority of Office as President to cause/allow certain actions to be taken.

    If it happened on his watch as President, he gets blame/praise in accordance with the same. He's even BLACK on his watch, and people make up stuff... just because they cannot handle it emotionally.
    (Sometimes, it's downright humorous to see people try and dance-around the irrational animus they harbor within themselves.)

    Please, stop with the nonsense.
     
  7. sparquelito

    sparquelito Banned at Members Request

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    Sure.

    Be individuals.
    Speak the unvarnished truth, at all times.

    Hold these politicians to the highest of standards.
    Do not parrot the Party talking points, but rather speak your mind.

    Do not concern yourself with what this website or that website instructs you to think, but THINK FOR YOURSELF.

    In the end, if you have an IQ somewhat taller than 100 or so, you will rise above all this status-quo nonsense.

    You will begin to realize that the crooks and the politicians (from both Parties) have been playing you.
    They have been COUNTING on you to waste your time, gnashing and gnawing at each other's throats.

    (Because the more hours you spend in hate-speech against the mythological hated Other Side, those are hours they can freely spend pi$$ing away your tax dollars on their pet projects, their buddies, their crooked friends, and their vacation home mortgages.)

    MAN.
    Just wake up and realize what is really going ON, that's what I am saying.
     
  8. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gosh, another conservative who thinks Obama should get no credit for anything positive that happened while he was in office. What a shocker.

    Gee, what would have happened if the Commander-in-Chief had had the same "it's not a priority" attitude about it as the prior C-n-C? Or if he did not make the decision to order the mission into Pakistan?

    Right. We'd still be in the "we'll git 'im dead or alive mode".

    As I've stated several times in this thread already, I never claimed that Obama is solely responsible for everything that has happened on the list. However, they did happen while he was in office, and IMO, if Obama had been a white Republican, conservatives would be hailing him as savior.

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    Thanks for the rant. How about answering my question.
     
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    sparquelito Banned at Members Request

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    You asked what was my better alternative.

    I gave it to you.

    It's up to YOU to abandon the tired and useless culture of 'us versus them' animosity that has done you no good whatsoever.

    Here's the deal;
    The TRUTH is never the wrong alternative.

    Thinking for yourSELF is rarely the incorrect path.

    Let me ask you, brainiac:
    Has this 'left versus right' nonsense gotten the nation ANYWHERE lately?

    These politicians are playing you people.
    They WANT you to waste your time hating the despised 'other side'.
    And in the end, the John Boehners and the Harry Reids are laughing ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK, while your nation crumbles.

    I just calls 'em as I see's 'em.
     
  10. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for clarifying your position. You rant about our system of government and insult everyone on the board as stupid (*)(*)(*)(*)s because we're discussing the president.

    Yet you cannot offer, much less defend, any alternative. That pretty much clarifies who the stupid (*)(*)(*)(*) is in my mind. Others can decide for themselves.

    As for your TRUTH, feel free to point one one thing I've stated in my posts you contend isn't accurate. Nobody else has.
     
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    sparquelito Banned at Members Request

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    I give up.
    Have a good evening, and a wonderful life of servitude.

    I'm out.
     
  12. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wise.

    ..........
     
  13. Omnipotent

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    LOL... you think I'm a conservative. ROFL!

    :roflol:

    I think Bush is a scum bag crooked politician too. How do you reconcile that?

    But yeah... *********s think Ole Dubya was a prophet, and *******s think Obamurr is a messiah....

    *le sighs
     
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    Growling and snapping again. Perhaps not so baseless an observation after all.




     
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    sparquelito Banned at Members Request

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    Thank you.

    I get that a lot.
     
  16. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good for you.

    Good for them.

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    Look in the mirror.
     
  17. Omnipotent

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    You dropped a bunch of unsubstantiated claims about Obamurr's performance as POTUS without citing ANY data or research. Leaving the reader to do endless research to validate/invalidate the claims. I suspect you have NOT done any validation of these claims yourself and merely copy/pasted from a some Obamurr worship website.

    I will make the claim blind squirrels found more nuts under Bush's administration... now prove me wrong.
     
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    Actually Tea Party members don't like Bush -- or at least not so far as his fiscal policies went -- that's why they became TPers in the first place despite what most of our Left of Center posters believe as an article of faith. Now as to Bush as -- oh I dunno -- a born again Christian or a War President, so far as I know they burn incense in his name and create chant mantras to pay homage to the fellow. But where economics are concerned they believed him to be a piece of excrement.

    As for as Obama and Leftwingers are concerned, most of them seem to think that he's not radically Leftist enough . . . which tells one a great deal about their thought processes and the nature of their ideology . . . :cool:
     
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    Ouch! Brilliant, but . . . ouch!
     
  20. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've cited the research many times in other threads. The fact you are unable to identify even one item you think is wrong, and instead have to make up false claims about copying and pasting says all we need to know.

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    Why does that hurt you?
     
  21. Omnipotent

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    So why is it so hard for you to create any links for this thread?

    But I'll pick one out the list.. just to amuse myself. And it's one of my pet peeves.


    Yeah... he got Obamacare passed, I'll give him that. You may call it an accomplishment, but it is one of the biggest unconstitutional f**k ups of all time. Jesus H. Baby Christ... we are in need of true socialized health care... and he gives us socialized insurance. It must be an awesome time to be in the insurance industry. It STILL does NOT provide basic heath CARE for the citizens of the US. Good gawd, single payer would have been better.
     
  22. Omnipotent

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    Let's pick another...

    LOL... The unemployment was well below 6% before he took office. It sky rockets up to 10 after he takes office. And it still isn't down to the Bush era levels. So you want to give him a pat on the back for partially unscrewing one of his screw ups??

    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
     
  23. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for sharing your opinion. Your opinion does not change the fact that it was passed and is predicted to provide coverage for tens of millions, as I stated.

    Through both the federal and state insurance exchanges and the expansion of the federal Medicaid program under the law, the CBO projects more than 12 million people now have insurance who wouldn't have normally been covered in the absence of the law. The CBO also projects 19 million people will gain coverage by 2015, 25 million more by 2016, and 26 million more by 2026.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/cbo-obamacare-report-how-many-people-are-insured-2014-4#ixzz3EC0fenWf
     
  24. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, you're completely wrong. The UR was 7.8% and skyrocketing upwards when Obama took office. It hit 10% within months of Obama taking office and is down to 6.1% now. Just as I stated.

    Any one can verify these facts for themselves here:

    http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab1.htm

    Or on your own link, for that matter.

    Yet another fact on my list you've challenged as wrong, yet as I've proved, is true.

    Want to try another?
     
  25. Omnipotent

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    And what about this one...

    LOL... these two are so intellectually dishonest. Lawd Jesus help me with this one.

    Obama is spending like a drunken sailor at a tune that is over one TRILLION a year his first 3 years in office. Never in history has the deficit spending gone over a half trill. Obama's first year is almost 4 times the deficit spending over Bush's highest mark. And he gets a pat on the back for cutting back his drunken sailor spending???

    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200

    edit: and you want to call his reduction in deficit spending... a "record"???
     

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