Scary Stuff

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  1. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    Taqiyya the Liar’s coffee cup salute reminded me of the “Umbrellas”:

    [video=youtube;g9RkyX44Zes]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g9RkyX44Zes[/video]​

    [video=youtube;XmECnHjxgZc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmECnHjxgZc&feature=player_detailpage[/video]​

    In truth, this picture is infinitely scarier than Taqiyya’s contempt for the military because of the where, the why, and the who. The United Nations is the where. Betraying the country is the why. Four of the biggest UN-loving traitors is the who:


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    And what the hell was National Security Advisor Suzy Five Shows doing there? Does Taqiyya the Liar have to be advised on the spot?

    Those characters aren’t even color coordinated. They should be seated black-white-black-white.

    It’s a crying shame that this guy was too busy to attend:


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    Judi McLeod puts it all in perspective:

     
  2. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You seem awfully unfamiliar with the concept of Taqiyya to be using it as a stupid political slur. Oh, wait that actually explains it.
     
  3. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    To Jonsa: An applicable nickname can hardly called stupid or a political slur.

    If you enlighten me with your concept of Taqiyya we can compare definitions and sources.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is hardly an applicable "nickname" and your use is obviously intended to be a stupid slur.

    http://www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia-ahlul-bayt-dilp-team/al-taqiyya-dissimulation-part-1

    The word "al-Taqiyya”literally means: "Concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies at a time of eminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from physical and/or mental injury.”A one-word translation would be "Dissimulation."

    The above definition must be elaborated upon before any undertaking of this topic is to ensue. Although correct, the definition suffers from an apparent generalization, and lacks some ndamental details that should be construed:

    First, the concealment of one’s beliefs does not necessitate an ABANDONMENT of these beliefs. The distinction between "concealment”and "abandonment”MUST be noted here.

    Second, there are numerous exceptions to the above definition, and they MUST be judged according to the situation that one is placed in. As such, one should NOT make a narrow-minded generalization that encompasses all situations, thereby failing to fully absorb the spirit of the definition.

    Third, the word "beliefs”and/or "convictions”does NOT necessarily mean "religious”beliefs and/or convictions.

    With the above in mind, it becomes evident that a better, and more accurate definition of "al-Taqiyya”is "diplomacy.”The true spirit of "al- Taqiyya”is better embodied in the single word "diplomacy”because it encompasses a comprehensive spectrum of behaviors that serve to further the vested interests of all parties involved.



    Even those sites dedicated to combatting Islamists recognize that the concept has been bastardized by those very same Islamists.
    The fact that those ignorant of Islam accept without question the Islamists perverse interpretations as representative of the religion is regrettably perfectly understandable.

    http://www.clarionproject.org/understanding-islamism/taqqiya-tactic-lying-concealment

    Taqiyya is an idea of Islamic jurisprudence that has been redefined and appropriated by Islamists as part of their political strategy. This piece is not about use of the concept in mainstream theology.




    So, calling the president of the United States "taqiyya" is a slur. It is using a noted perversion of the concept in order further accuse him of being a liar. the fact that he is no more or less a liar than every other president and politician escapes the partisan. the fact you can't recognize a slur when you use one comes as no surprise.


    BTW. perhaps you should learn how to respond to posts so that the person you are responding to is advised of said response.
     
  5. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    Simply more hypocrisy.
     
  6. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    To Jonsa: Nice try. You skipped the most important part of Taqiyya. PERMISSION TO LIE. By comparison, these three links selected from the many that are available give the undisputed definition of Taqiyya:

    http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm

    http://www.clarionproject.org/understanding-islamism/taqqiya-tactic-lying-concealment

    Your guy is a liar. The nickname is appropriate. Slurring him is a bonus.

    I’m not sure what this means: “. . . learn how to respond to posts so that the person you are responding to is advised of said response.” I quoted your reply; wrote my message and posted it. What is that you think I should have done?
     
  7. Flanders

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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you have no problem with using Islamist perversion of the term. should have actually read the clarion project article in full. I am damn sure you didn't read the definition from an actual renowned Shi'ite scholar. Not surprised.

    The nickname is not appropriate. But at least you now agree it is intended as a slur.


    I know you should respond by hitting the reply with quote button on the bottom right of the post. I you wish to make a general comment not associated with the actual post, hit reply or the green reply to thread at the bottom of the page. When you do this, you get "Quote Originally Posted by Flanders" indicating who you are addressing AND notifying that poster.


    If you "go advanced", you have a variety of additional formatting options for your reply. If you wish to reply to multiple points in a post, you can highlight the text you wish to respond to and hit the bubble icon on the editing toolbar.
     
  9. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    To Jonsa: Or you can read my name at the top left of every message!
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More slowly this time:

    When you use the "quote" button the system NOTIFIES THE PERSON YOU ARE QUOTING THAT A RESPONSE HAS BEEN MADE TO A PARTICULAR POST.

    Or haven't you noticed the notification menu item next to your logon?
     
  11. Margot2

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    Taquyya is what Abraham did when he twice deceived the pharaohs concerning his relationship with Sarah.

    Its is NOT applicable to Obama.. and FYI... even military officers on the move salute with coffee cups in their hands.

    This uproar is petty politics at its finest.
     
  12. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    To Jonsa: Give it up. I was trying to be polite. Here it is in plain English. Mind your own business. I’ll reply my way using the format I choose.
     
  13. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes I see you lack respect for the other members of this community. Of all the members here you are the only one that doesn't use the tools provided to make it easier for all.

    FYI, feel free to respond to any of my posts until you are blue in the face. After this single interaction with you, you have become just the second name on my ignore list.


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  14. Flanders

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    To Jonsa: Thank you. You have done exactly what I always tell liberals to do.
     
  15. Flanders

    Flanders Well-Known Member

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    Move the cursor to 5:30 to see Sarah salute Taqiyya:

    [video=youtube;SLvFkbZeMOA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLvFkbZeMOA&feature=player_detailpage[/video]​
     

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