Russian Official: US Must Abandon Claims to Eternal Uniqueness

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  1. MVictorP

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    "American" democracy is ancient Athenian democracy. Tell me how the US influenced the scandinavian countries, for exemple.
     
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    And the French one. More likely, given Norway's ties to the Napoleonic regime.
     
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    Let me ask you something. If someone breaks the law and is sentenced in the U.S. for tax evasion like Khardorovsky, do you think Russia would have the right to object and make a big stink about it? I don't! As an American I don't even think that one state has the right to object to the laws in another state never the less another nation.

    Now let me ask you something else, why did Hillary Clinton and others treat 'P*ssy Riot' as heroes for desecrating the Church of Our Saviour with blasphemous music? Do you think if someone was so perverse as to do that to Saint Patricks or the Washington Cathedral, that politicians in Moscow would be lauding them as heroes and object to their sentencing? Are these the great American values that our Washington sociopaths want to impose on the world?

     
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    > "that politicians in Moscow would be lauding them as heroes and object to their sentencing?"

    Politicians in Moscow often criticize what happens in America and often speak out on American injustice. You can see this on the Russian news. American news doesn't cover Moscow politicians and their ramblings.
     
  6. Jeannette

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    I'm an American. I say my country automatically, although I'm trying hard to disassociate myself with the Washington sociopaths now controlling it. I am first and foremost a Christian.
     
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    As Russia should, since we're so busy condemning them. I'm not talking about injustices, I'm talking about sentencing criminals. Since when have the rights of criminals become so important to us, especially considering they would get worse sentencing in parts of the U.S. without anyone objecting?
     
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    (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Riot was a special case. It made for good headlines and was a good issue for American news outlets to show how Putin was cracking down on free speech in Russia.
    "Big bad Putin is afraid of little girls."
    That's a story.
    Russian news uses similar stories to portray America in a bad light.
     
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    And America's Articles of Confederation
    were patterned after the Dutch.

    The Dutch and their confluence of Protestant, Catholic, Ashkenazi and Sephardim Jews were able to pull it off where as the American colonies were too contentious with one another to ever get it together, confederation style.

    One thing I liked about that time was, Only The Dike Master could rouse you out of your home and force you into national service, on the dikes of course, at times of emergency.

    The Dutch, being master administrators used their administrative skills to confound the Spanish Inquisition circa 1550. Spain, the nominal "head of the Netherlands" sent its' Inquisition to Holland.
    Figuratively the Dutch had them running circles seeking residency verification and other such activities before they would consider issuing a License to the Inquisition, commanded by their Head of State.
    And, It Worked too !


    Moi :oldman:
    Team Spirit Nationalism


    r > g


    No :flagcanada:
     
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    Russia is a lawless, godless, corrupt, criminal country. Every oligarch (including Khodorkovsky), every Putin's business partner, wealthy supporter, cabinet member, adviser etc is a criminal, every one of them is in violation of hundreds of Russian laws daily...Khodorkovsky was singled out and convicted because of his political disagreement with Putin. Every member of Putin's mafia is just as guilty but they are all czar Putin's "Yes" men and are thus members of his gang in good standing.
     
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    Proof?
     
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    In reality it's more or less just another European unitary state now - but there are several issues the US excels on - firearms, zoning (in certain areas), primaries, and wage floors. Some states are quite decent, others are worse than France.
     
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    How can one prove an analysis of history.
    Such an analysis is subjective by nature.


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    Rather than wisely quote and reply: "Proof"

    Why don't you, you, you and your sort try a quick Google search and "Proof" otherwise ?
    I never understood that.


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    proof proof

    r > g
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    No :flagcanada:
    self evident
     
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    But this was a desecration of a Church, something Americans would never do...and yet people like Hillary were praising them for it. Can you imagine if someone desecrated a mosque in Saudi Arabia, and American politicians were to praise them as heroes? The point here is why is it okay to do something to Russia that will offend them, when it would be unheard of anywhere else? Are we trying to provoke them to war, because that's what it seems like to a great many people.
     
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    examples?
     
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    I'm sure there are others just as guilty as Khodorovsky, and he was probably used as an example, after all they put people in jail in the U.S. too as a warning to others. It doesn't mean though that if the others are committing crimes and are caught they won't be convicted.

    Everyone who knew Putin personally knew that he has the highest integrity, so when he came into office the oligarchs were frightened. To ease their fears, he let them know that he would not touch their money providing they did two things, pay their taxes, and stayed out of politics. Well obviously Khodorovsky didn't do either, and so he went to jail. Besides he went to sell his assets to a foreign company, and that would have been harmful to Russia.

    Oh and just in case you didn't know, integrity is considered a virtue. :oldman:
     
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    You never understood that if you make a claim you should post proof? Well I guess we are done here :roll:
     
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    I think if you compare the # of Russian immigrants in the US to the # of American immigrants in Russia, that clearly isn't the case. Could make the same comparison with almost any European state.
     
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    Why.......?
     
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    And right you are, Khodorkovsky was indeed made an example... of what happens to those who oppose czar Putin politically... Somehow no example has ever been made of Putin criminal cronies, just of political opponents. That must be a mere coincidence, isn't that? ;)


    See, I told you Russia is a fascist, corrupt, lawless, godless country with no judiciary, no rule of law, no justice...Every Russian judge is in Putin's pocket, every cop is an extortionist and a bribe taker....And you are a very bad Christian for supporting this corrupt, criminal enterprise (aka Putin's Russia).
     
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    A person can only be someone's political crony if they agree with him, so why would you expect otherwise from Putin's cronies?

    Here's a link to an article by an American who has had personal experiences with Vladimir Putin. According to her he has the utmost integrity and has done a great job in reforming Russia.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-is-vladimir-putin-why-does-the-us-government-hate-him/5381205
     
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    Precisely! He complained that no network but Al jeezra covered that speech. Yet even when someone gave him a link that proved that another 'western' network did cover that speech, he attacks the source.

    Why am I not surprised?
     

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