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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You keep saying things like this, and when challenged, you spin.

    Do you support socialism as an economic system over capitalism, yes or no?
     
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    I don't need to spin anything when I understand the concepts.

    I understand that socialism is a requirement for States and statism to exist. And, capitalism does not include Government. Government is Socialism.
     
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    And a even better topic is why should those that WORK be required to support those that ARE capable of working . When will liberals do more and over think less . When will liberals admit they do more harm than good .
    When will liberal come to grips with the real world and leave their virtual world .
     
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    Due to a "natural rate of unemployment" and low wages?

    When will the right establish more confidence in their sincerity regarding Faith, especially in regard to a recognized federal Doctrine and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are dodging.

    How much involvement should our socialist government have over the free market?
     
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    Dude, we have a Commerce Clause. Why do you believe I am advocating for simplification of public policies.
     
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    That is just another way of litigating at taxpayer expense . Don't you think lawyers have enough money ?
     
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    I live in the People's Republic of NJ and can't wait to get out.
     
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    That is your straw man argument, not mine. Simplification means we don't have to waste our tax monies on frivolity, as much.
     
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    You destroyed California and New Orleans and quickly moving to Colorado. Our NEVER has our debt been higher AND you still fail to see a need for fiscal responsibility and smaller government.
     
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    Why did you overlook California has one-third of the nation’s welfare recipients ? And Colorado, beneficiaries used their electronic-benefit transfer (EBT) cards to access public assistance at weed retailers and dispensaries.
    Last count about one third of people in the New Orleans are sitting below the poverty line, and they are the "busiest" ?
     
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    I didn't overlook this, under our form of Capitalism:

    California's economy is the 8th largest economy in the world (2012)
     
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    California ; Debt per citizen $11.013 , debt to GPD ratio 18.80 % And billions of dollars of state budgetary and retirement obligations remain unpaid through at last 2017. YEP , doing just fine ! :clapping:
     
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    All I can say is, good question. You already know the answer.
     
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    Commerce well regulated and that form of Faith in Capitalism, can save us.
     
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    I hope you have an answer .
     
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    Hang on , I'm jotting that in my little brown pad !
     
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    logic and reason haven't failed me, yet.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Here is another bit of bumper sticker philosophy: It takes money to make money.
     
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    You never answer the though questions and instead dodge with another question.

    You are clearly passionate about your agenda... Why not man up and start discussing it.
     
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    Still dodging points and spinning.

    Seriously man, grow a damn pair
     
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    I have been arguing that point the whole time, since I first discovered a Cause. It is about lowering our Tax burden through simplification in public policies.

    From a macroeconomic perspective, we merely need solve for the phenomena known as a "natural rate of unemployment" by using merely sufficient socialism to better ensure full employment of resources in that market and in that manner, bailout capitalism, like usual.
     
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    I didn't spin anything but merely providing some anecodal evidence that gives some weight to the perception that the 8th largest economy in the world cannot be as bad as is claimed by some on the right.

    Commerce well regulated and that form of Faith in Capitalism, can save us.
     
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    What is the formula that permits the lazy off the behind and on a job?
     
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    Simply being able to claim to be unemployed in our at-will employment States. At the rock bottom cost of a form of minimum wage, it can be more cost effective than more expensive means tested programs.

    Thus, and if you have Faith in Capitalism and the laws of demand and supply, the motivating factor should be a "profit motive" for Labor when they can command a prevailing market based wage and no longer be poor on an at-will basis if that is not what they want.
     
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