What armed self defense really looks like.

If that were the case the gun wouldn't be your sole focus, civilized society has been willfully inflicting pain, death and suffer on itself since it's inception. Me thinks you should focus on people and not inanimate objects.

Nope the point flew over your head eh? If you are worried about something harming you then go hide in an underground bunker...there are lots of inanimate objects that could cause the same kind of damage to you yet you express no fear of them. Like toefoot said, stay put...something might hurt or kill you. WOW

 

You are being wilfully obtuse in attempting to deny that guns are weapons. In doing so you are attempting to diminish their inherent lethality in order to defend your dangerous hobby. The effects of such a mindset of social irresponsibility on your wider society are of little consequence for you

 

waaaaaaaaay too many movies..... way too many.............

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hobby= Rights? no wonder Scotland decided to remain subjects....... y'all can't tell the difference between the two

 

Perhaps you shouldn't watch so many in the future then ?

 

ahhhhhhhh, the Pee Wee Herman defense..............

 

Defense from what ?

 

Says the guy with the user name and avatar of a Russian war plane. Why are governments more trustworthy with weapons than the people? Government can have nukes and we don't even get guns? Is that the difference between a subject and a citizen?

 

You don't understand the dynamics of being a U.S. Citizen.

I have been to Scotland....and the only thing a person needs to protect themselves from in Scotland are these bugs that fly in massive swarms and they bite any area of the body left unprotected.

You live in a very small area with a very undiverse population of people....who are monitored by cameras on every street in every town.

Compare this to living in a single U.S. State 8 times the size of all of the U.K.

Our Freedom and Rights here allow such a great degree of freedom we have Biker Gangs who when riding 2 abreast on a road can exist as a double line of Bikes as long as Scotland itself.

You simply just don't understand.

AboveAlpha

 

I'm an ex RAF aviation enthusiast and use this avatar on other more specialised forums. Why has that any significance here ?

Look at your own firearm death rates because they clearly answer that question for you. In the developed world your overall murder rates are 4 times the average for a very good reason.

Do you want to have personal nukes because you sound almost jealous of that fact ?

 

Again...you don't understand the dynamics of living in the United States.

We have people of every race, color and creed living here and this is a reflection of the Planets Nations.

When you compare murder rates to the rates of death due to conflicts world wide....the U.S. rate is much lower.

AboveAlpha

 

Or maybe people are simply not programmed to think like this outwith the US

On the contrary we have sizeable ethnic minorities from the Indian sub continent, Eastern Europe and elsewhere. As far as cameras go in my experience the only people needing to worry about those are the bad guys

What has geographical area have to do with this ?

Well I'd certainly agree there. It is difficult to understand why you'd want to do this to yourselves and attempt to justify it as some sort of freedom

 

PLEASE....Scotland is like living in a Big Brother is WATCHING YOU state.

It is tiny in area and tiny in population and has a TINY...TINY number of minorities.

You simply don't understand.

AboveAlpha

 

I doubt that many here would share that view in fact I suspect most here welcome this as a deterrent to crime. These cameras you seem to dread have certainly assisted our police in rounding up many perps and are viewed as a positive thing

Again what does geographical area have to do with this ?

 

This is me 21 years ago.

 

I'm a 1982 Falklands war veteran myself a Rapier SAM missile battery operator

I dont doubt that almost every US citizen that has killed someone be that by accident or design has claimed to be a responsible gun owner at one time or another

Once again I'm sure every gun owner says this. Unfortunately though many have gone on to do so. In my view a gun in the home (especially if there are kids) is like a ticking time bomb that may or may not go off one day. Why take the risk ?

Why do you think the electorates in other countries are not keen to emulate your example ?

Me in the cockpit of my namesake in Kiev (click to enlarge)

 

I think it's funny how Russia copied or borrowed design features of American jets. I was working inside a Lockheed Martin facility where aircraft design is going on and I saw a poster on the wall showing the US jet and the resulting copycat Russian jet. It was a Com-Sec reminder poster. Cool picture. I assume that jet is a static display? Operational jets would have intake covers to prevent FOD.(At least USAF jets would.) Also, they wouldn't let anybody in an operational jet because of the egress hazards.(ejection seats)

 

I have no problem operating military systems in time of conflict, there is no analogy between this and personal firearms.

But most weren't. Legal shootings represent a miniscule fraction of your gun killings

So you are conceding that guns do not make you safer then ? What you call freedom most would call fear and its a fear that seems to produce spiralling growth in firearms.

That's a rather sweeping generalisation. Most Russian types are pretty much designed specifically to their requirements. Aircraft like Mig 25 or TU22M for instance have no real Western equivalent.

Yes. It was taken in 2010 at the Ukrainian museum of war

 

so your pic is a misrepresentation........................

 

He never said it was an operational jet. I was just checking it out.

Flogger - Why do governments keep militaries with WMD? Why can they defend themselves from their neighbor while I cannot?

Why are internal government agencies allowed to militarize? Am I that big a threat? I'm working 60 hours/week to pay my taxes and they still cannot guarantee my safety, even with their militarized police forces. I have a better track record than any government. If some gang banger wants to act like an idiot with a gun, throw him under a jail or put him on death row after a fair trial. He gave up his rights by violating the rights of others.

 

That's right. America where they landed a man on the moon and have more money than God.

 

that's right, and this is America where alcohol is more common than aspirin.
More domestic abuse/shootings occur when mixed with alcohol. Even my buddies in here have failed to address this issue because we have a Right to consume alcohol.
Like firearms, we have a Right to it. It is still a responsibility and to be used cautiously. It isn't people and guns that don't mix, it is people, guns and alcohol that don't mix.

 

Here are a couple of Democrats in Pennsylvania who owe their lives to their ability to carry a gun. From what I can tell, they were pro-gun rights already. They definitely should be now.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...r-exchanges-gunfire-with-alleged-robber-near/

 

Here is a good reason to have a gun ready eh?
http://gunssavelives.net/self-defen...ader-but-manages-to-return-fire-end-incident/

 

http://articles.philly.com/2014-10-15/news/55019619_1_lawler-pathmark-girlfriend

He took a man with a 13" knife down after warning the guy. I'd like to see the video.

 

Another good look at what law abiding self defense looks like.
http://gunssavelives.net/self-defense/napping-homeowner-shoots-1-of-3-daytime-home-invaders/

Better them than us, eh?