Why are Christians so Mean-Spirited?

It sounds like you are saying people who are gay promote sexual promiscuity. It's not true.

Quoting Paul's story of where God spiked the punch on some folks because they worshiped idols, where he punished them for idolatry by making them do things that were shameful to them doesn't make you less responsible for that erroneous judgement.



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Arguably less violent? Christianity is "arguably" less violent than isis? Gee, ya think? What do you think, luthern churches are going to rise up and wipe out rome again? Your appeal to history is silly. It would be like saying "Mexico is arguably less of a military threat to the US than China, even though Mexico is a close ally, we went to war with it a long time ago". You aren't demonstrating you historical knowledge by pointing out luthern violence against rome, but showing you ignorance of modern events by contrasting it with isis as to why Christians may be just as violent. Why don't we keep part of the army on reserve so we can March back into Utah in case the mormons start causing problems again? This sort of digging up ancient history to equivocate those who behead children doesn't demonstrate tolerance.

 

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Gay men do promote sexual promiscuity, to the point that they call that "The Life."



In 2004, a group of researchers at the University of Chicago published a study of homosexual sexual relationships in that city.

The research was led by Sociology Professor Edward O. Laumann. His team of researchers studied the sex habits of homosexuals in Shoreland, a “gay center” in Chicago. Laumann found the following:

* 42.9% of homosexual men in Shoreland had more than 60 sexual partners;

*18.4% had between 31 and 60 partners.

* 61.3% of the area’s homosexual males had more than 30 partners.

* 87.8% had more than 15.

 

So you deny that sexually promiscuous behaviors create dangerous cities fill of fatherless bastards who become the criminal element, and that military attacks begin coming from neighboring patriarchies, like China, N Korea, and Islam?

 

And after that did he study the sexual habits in the Chicago Hooter's franchise to make sweeping judgements about Americans?

The highly questionable source of your data aside, your claim is like saying that because white men age 23-44 are most likely to commit suicide white's promote suicide.






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Yes, I do object, however they do have the right to say those things, just like me. It's a free country. I just don't think it's a very Christian attitude.

 

Yes, it's ridiculous. Conservative propaganda notwithstanding, relatively few sex acts actually lead to children totally accidentally, especially when the woman has access to birth control

 

why are they mean spirited? Because they are driven by egos. And so all men driven by egos are mean spirited, arrogant, greedy, competitive, ambitious. Christians love their egos so much that they insist that it survive the death of the body. Even when they are charitable, they are self gratifying. Even when they try to be good to others, they do it in order to gain in the next life. They are not being good because they are good people at the core. They have other motives all self serving.

 

80yrs? What I responded to was a post of yours where the monument was placed in 2012.
And for a city to be that foolish to place a christian monument on public grounds in this day and age is only asking for controversy. As they know it is against the constitution and went and did it anyway.

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And there is not much greater fear than spending an eternity in a lake of fire.

 

Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. So it has to be kept known that christianity was once like radical muslims.
Do you want to forget about Nazi germany? Remove it from history?

 

There is nobody more mean-spirited than somebody who KNOWS he is full of crap and has to defend the indefensible all day long. I think most religionists KNOW they are full of crap.

 

There are all sorts of lessons in all religious text and traditions born from thousands of years experience. They teach you how to live a life that is compatible with a civil society. Currently this country is trying to make it up on the fly since abandonment of what works is popular and it is obvious we are suffering the consequences with high rates of fatherless households, rampant crime, and general lack of common decency.

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Just because you know you are full of crap does not mean everyone else is. Quit projecting.

 

Moses didn't have a father and he was a homicidal maniac. That's one example in your favor.

 

what? I am responding to your post, and saying Christians are just making excuses for their hate of Wiccans and Gays, not sure where you got any of the above

 

Other than perhaps the fatherless households, the rest is pure opinion.

 

I was not talking about comparing ISIS and christianity in that sentence, rather christianity as compared to other religions.

Christianity has not become perfectly pacifist since the Lutheran revolt. Is it currently less violent than Islam? Yes. But extremist fundamental rhetoric about the sinful world and gods wrath can still be found within some christian churches. While it only occasionally manifest as isolated violent incidents for the most part does not mean that this kind of worldview doesn't create social problems.

Finally going into the ISIS issue is completely off topic for the thread. The OP was specifically about christian behavior. Its pretty childlike to point fingers at others to justify ones own failings.

 

jokes?

there are all sorts of lessons in all sorts of everything, what bearing does that have on the 'merits' of religion? and what in hell sort of experience are we likely to benefit from which dates to thousands of years ago? how not to boil goats in their own milk? how to beat your slaves? how to marry a girl you've just raped? how to keep women down? how to kill children? how not to make the mistake of calling someone baldy? if these are things we need to live in a civil society, then I'll opt out, thanks.

'abandonment of what works'? like segregation, repression of women, judging people based on how they wear their hair, or how they have sex, making laws based on superstitions - themselves based on magic books about monster gods - to the exclusion of all other worldviews, etc etc. you'd have all that back, I take it?

the social ills you experience have nothing to do with lack of religion. if they did, places like Norway and Australia would have worse problems, since there's far less religion in those places. America is the most Christian western nation on the planet, and it has the worst social health. the buck stops right there, so you'll need to look at other reasons for why you guys are failing socially.

 

Evidently you think people today are different than people then. It is a common mistake. The only difference are things, and of course the abandonment of what works.

 

we abandoned it because it DIDN'T work. and the countries who've abandoned it the 'most', ie, for the longest, now rate in the top 10 for quality of human life, and care for the planet.

people are the same, true, but we know more (and we care more) today than ever before. we are maturing into ourselves, and it's well (*)(*)(*)(*)ing overdue.

 

Really? Do you really not get what I'm saying? Do you honestly believe that me suggesting that MODERN Christians are not the threat that ISIS does, regardless of Christian history, is the same as saying that we should go ahead and ignore all of history? Did you jot read my post? Is English not your first language? Are you trying to argue against Christians, and this is just the best argument you've got? I don't know how better to address an argument like this than to just not believe the proposed of said argument isn't even trying.

 

You didn't say "is currently less violent". You said "arguably less violent", as if the topic is some matter of debate. In your post, you suggest that an argument could be made that Christianity is less violent than islam. Don't move the goalposts. Stand by your silly words, or retract them. Or do whatever you like. No one who has read a newspaper in the last 50 years will take your argument seriously.

Finally, I didn't bring up radical islam. Others did, with the express purpose of showing how Christians are so mean spirited, that somehow we are culpable for the actions of organized religion of the past, the ones who acted as bad as radical Islam does today.

 

Pretty sure this thread was meant to address the attitudes of some Christians locally rather than Islamic extremists as a whole. I do note what can easily be seen as aggression and cruelty coming from many Christians ....even on this internet forum. This of course does not in any way compare to the physical violence seen in extreme Islam, but it is still in existence.

 

What difference does it make, it's been in our constitution forever, when many religious statues and crosses,etc... have been placed all over the states but no one complained or cared before, however Giftedone seemed like he was in denial with "What monuments do atheists want to erase ?"

 

No. I've seen you post this argument a few times. Just because christians aren't barbaric at this point in time, doesn't meant they weren't or won't be again. At this point in time, most christians act better than a few radical muslims. Yes. When christianity was in its dark times, it was because of the church.
No, I'm not arguing against christians. Just your position.

 

The big difference is the USA continues to become more diverse. 50+ yrs ago, most only ID'd themselves as christian. And to speak out against christians could lead to a bad day.