Why are Christians so Mean-Spirited?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Aleksander Ulyanov, Oct 11, 2014.

  1. prospect

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    Fair point... So when a question like this arises, "What monuments do atheists want to erase ?" Really, the answer would be all of them ?
     
  2. crank

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    exactly. up until VERY recently, we've been terrified into submission by the threat of eternal damnation (we were clearly very stupid) and by the sheer weight of the body of the church. no one in their right mind would have messed with the status quo, even up until as recently as the 1960's.

    praise the lord, those dark days of childlike subservience are long gone.
     
  3. dairyair

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    I can't answer for atheists. But per the constitution, it is remove all or allow all. And I think allowing all would/could be to cumbersome.
     
  4. crank

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    I can answer for this atheist ... and I agree 100%. all or none. since all isn't remotely feasible, that means none.
     
  5. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Yep, people are starting to follow this part of the First Commandment ;
    Exodus 34:13 (NKJV) = "But you shall destroy their altars, break down their sacred pillars, and cut down their wooden images"
     
  6. democrack

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    Oh , like the Muslim faith is so loving . :roflol: People can have faith and look to a higher power and believe much of what they read in the scriptures , and they are religious fanatics too . I can say Christians are far more tolerant religion than the Muslim faith .
     
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    This is not even semantics. You just do not wish to understand basic english.

    I obviously stand by my words. I said the argument could be made that christianity is less violent than islam. Currently it is less violent IMO.

    Are you saying I am wrong? In that case you make the argument that christianity is just as or more violent than islam (in general) and that currently it is also.

    I am not the one moving goalpost. My point was simply that any fundamental theistic faith has potentially violent outcomes . The violence in islam actually supports my argument.

    In our discourse you were the one to bring up ISIS. Not me. If others on the thread did it first it had nothing to do with our posting to each other except in your own head.
     
  8. crank

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    I suppose you mean that SOME muslims might want to kill apostates? or visit violence on those of other faiths? in that case then, yes, there is a difference. interestingly though, at no time in the past have muslims assumed superiority and control over most of the western world, to the absolute exclusion of all other faiths and worldviews. nor have they insisted on being given rights and powers via government, demanded tax exemptions, forced kids in schools to pray, demonised anyone (publicly or privately) who doesn't believe exactly as they do, imposed their rituals on others without asking, knocked on peoples doors to tell them they're wrong, burnt 'witches', killed atheists, demanded absolute and unquestioned veneration, and generally run the entire western world for about 2000 years on behalf of the monster god named Yahweh.

    it's interesting because now that someone else is doing (even then, they have a long way to go to catch up with the wholesale domination of Christianity and its attendant evils) what Christians have done for most of western history, people are getting antsy.
     
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    And I suppose YOU mean SOME Christians and NOT today's Muslims .
     
  10. crank

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    no. I meant SOME muslims TODAY want to kill apostates etc.

    this is not a comparison of evil, incidentally, it's making a point that the Christian world is angsting over what the muslim world is doing, even though the Christian world has done the same thing (and far worse) for the past 1700 years.
     
  11. democrack

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    It is strange how referring to the past some how to justifies todays bad acts . Perhaps some are better not having "religion" !
     
  12. crank

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    who's trying justify what?

    if Christians didn't go around telling the world that morality is entirely the province of a god named Yahweh, and exclusively practice by themselves, no one would make unflattering comparisons.

    tip: don't tell the world Christian = good
     
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    Better tip: don't tell the world Christian = BAD
     
  14. crank

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    when? who said that?

    all we're doing is correcting the misinformation. once again, if christians hadn't spent hundreds of years insisting they had the monoply on goodness, there'd be no pressing need for correction.
     
  15. democrack

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    Well isn't the world a much better place with liberals correcting all the evils of the past 1000 years ! :clapping:
     
  16. dairyair

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    Not justified, but hypocritical.
     
  17. dairyair

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    That is a true statement. We have a very very literate society, USA, than compared to 100 yrs ago.
    Most now know the earth isn't 6000 yrs old compared to 100 yrs ago.
    So yes, liberalism if that is what you want to call it has made the world a better place.
     
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    Christians don't support gay marriage and they are evil evil people. ISIS crucifies a 17 year old in front of his parents and there are crickets from atheists.
     
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    How can you make such a comparison?

    If ISIL savages murder a 17 year old then its OK for Christians to prevent gays from having civil rights?

    Is THAT how your mind works?
     
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    Its not really about religion though. The collective whining your talking about is a new social dynamic that I really can't track. I suspect some of it comes from the crazy scrutiny put on leaders now days. When I was in elementary school kids wanted to be president or astronauts, no one wants to be president anymore. Our expectation of selflessness in leaders has become toxic I think, it feels safer to let someone else take the reigns and then gripe about them not being perfect than it is to attempt to lead.

    The other issue might be the new "team" mentality in accomplishments. Leaders are expected to give credit to everyone but themselves, and giving one person the lauds and spotlight is discouraged.

    So when no one gets individual credit for anything and leaders get all the blame the power naturally shifts to the whiners.

    Religion as its framed in this thread is talking about the religious people who blame the secular world for all the problems. They seem angry and want everyone else to at least pretend to be religious.

    Some atheist are over sensitive I think, but it comes from feeling alienated by the overly religious. I know people who grew up secular, and the way religious people act sometimes really creeps them out, they just don't know how to act. I'm atheist, but grew up in a very religious family, so the whole god thing is no big bones to me. But I can understand them not liking it. Have you ever had a new acquaintance come to your house and try to get you to join amway? Same difference but on a bigger scale for them.
     
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    Well obviously you are an atheist who only attacks Christianity. Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    Mod edit,,,flounder,,3

    Do you think God makes mistakes? Or, perhaps he made homosexuals too.
     
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    Very funny , way too much time wasted !
     
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    Why are Christians so Mean-Spirited? Most likely the same reasons jews, muslims, hindus, shinto's, buddists, atheists and other religions have people who are mean spirited as well. You have people regardless of religious beliefs who are mean spirited in general; its the way they were raised in most cases by their families.
     
  25. FoxHastings

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    That's true which is why those who claim they are "better" because they believe in a religion are only fooling themselves......
     

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