Conservative loon Michael Savage attacks veterans with PTSD: Boo-hoo-hoo!

No, it's just right-wingers are honest enough to reject the lunacy that exists on their 'side'. The left......... not so much.

 

http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2014/02/banned-entering-uk/

 

Is this some sort of attempt to make the UK a 'pure' speech zone, where nothing offensive can ever be said? Banning people from a country simply for saying things is just bizarre to me. What is it that you fear so much about people so freely speaking their minds?

The U.S. isn't a perfect place, but I thank my God every day that we are free to speak our minds no matter how offensive it may be. We have a right to speak here; but we do not have a right to NOT be offended.

 

(*)(*)(*)(*) you're still alive? Hey snakestretcher how are you? I missed you man.

 

Every side has their "crazy uncle" personality. Us democrats get Uncle Joe Biden, the libertarians get great uncle Ron Paul, and the republicans get this Savage guy. Oh, and Rush. And Beck, and Hannity, and that nutty Anne Coulter chick and.......

Hey, I think I'm starting to see a pattern here.......

 

There's really no sense in even discussing PTSD disability fraud because there's no way to prove they aren't suffering the symptoms they claim. It's just one those things that we have to put up with due to the fact that we HAVE to take car of our veterans! If they say they are suffering they must be treated as if they are. Savage is a super mega (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and always has been.

 

Yeah: Rosanne Barr, Rosie O'Donnell, Nancy 'We have to pass it to find out what's in it' Pelosi, Chris Tingles Matthews, Rep. Hank Guam-is-Sinking Johnson, Howard Arrrrrggggg Dean, Alan Grayson, Bill Maher, Michael Moore...

Do you want me to go on?

 

Good golly, I, too, am beginning to see a pattern. Very nice!

 

My 'make believe' friend died 7 years ago (man, time flies). He was 57 or 58 when he committed suicide. His OBIT which I just found had said he was in the Air Force. It did not include the fact he handled body bags coming home but did state he was a VIET NAM vet. And it did not include his cause of death.

What is DISGUSTING is that you think someone would LIE about this--to impress whom?? You? WHY would I or anyone else do that? That takes a SICK mind with
or without the 'benefit' of PTSD as an excuse to think that.

 

I stated the case in another response. I was off by 3 years of his age (I thought I remembered him being for whatever reason my same age). He also died 7 years ago
which I'm in total shock about. (It doesn't seem like it was yesterday but I was stunned its been 7 years). I found his OBIT and he was in the Air Force and it stated
he was a Viet Nam vet.

I'll reiterate my response to the other post. Who the F would make up a story like that?? Why?? That's incomprehensible to me. I can't imagine what kinds of minds are on this board that think people would do THAT?

 

My neighbor did NOT claim (*)(*)(*)(*)! He went to college, got a degree, worked in the FINANCIAL industry and frankly did pretty well. We lived in nice neighborhood. His wife was a PHD and worked for the state. They did okay for themselves. All 3 daughters went to college, the last one graduated this year. He didn't ask for MONEY. I wish to god he would have asked for HELP.

 

Try hanging out on a university campus when an Israeli official or an American supporter is scheduled to, even assuming they actually got invited and approved. Ditto for any speech that doesn't gush over the Gay Privilege hoax.

No, we don't have 'free speech' here in America. We have a media that deliberately censors stories that don't comply with their idea of 'rightness', and professional organizations that happily cave to political pressure and routinely censor their professional journals. The MSM avidly censors stories that should go national, while promoting farces like the Ferguson riots and other ridiculous nonsense.

 

Roseanne Barr is part of a pattern? What pattern? Overpaid TV MOMS? What part do you hate most? The fact that she is fat or that she owned
her own 'property' and is a mega-rich WOMAN that did that?

 

Really? Brits have some taste.

 

Yes, cpicturetaker. I'm sure that even though most media in this country has a progressive bias, it infuriates you that any dissenting voices are allowed, and you relish the day when everything is as left-wing as you are.

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Yeah, no dissenting opinions allowed in Britain!

They'll ban right wing radio hosts but they'll roll out the welcome mat for Muslim jihadists.

I feel sorry for the surviving British WWII veterans who had to live and see what your generation did to your once proud country.

 

I checked. Savage did not serve.

 

A culinary specialist on an aircraft carrier is a "Vietnam Vet" whose only experience with combat was fighting back the tears while cutting onions...what does that have to do with anything?

PTSD is overdiagnosed.

Every person will at some point in their life experience a traumatic event...a sexual assault, a vehicle accident, a close relative diagnosed with a terminal illness.

"oh he's a Vietnam Vet" "They've seen some (*)(*)(*)(*)"...

Yes many have, and many spent the duration far removed from combat but are still technically "Vietnam Vets"

Hell I'm a veteran of 3 wars, with the ribbons to prove it....does that make me therefore a combat veteran? I've seen my share of crispy critter corpses...I suppose I should reach for the .45 on the shelf...woe is me.

There are legitimate cases of PTSD which are so severe, this person can no longer function normally, like holding down a job and is no longer able to financially support themselves...and there are malingerers who may indeed have experienced a traumatic event or two, but will certainly milk it for all it's worth.

 

Since when does FREE SPEECH include incendiary LIES on 'news programming' sources. FOX "NEWS" is not on the Comedy Channel. Ironically for all the smartass remarks about Stewart or Colbert, they are COMEDIANS. I have no doubt in my mind that on their tax forms it says entertainer or comedian. They are on the C O M E D Y Channel. Are Savage, Rush, Hannity, and the rest on a 'comedy radio network'? It ain't the LIBS calling them 'news' or public commentators. They are either polemic vile spewing lying news or political commentators or they are COMEDIANS. Which is it?

 

Well, you and your story are misrepresenting Michael Savage as I did listen to that show and there was more to it than just that as well as the context in which he spoke about it. Then again, I'm not surprised to see such a tactic by you.

I know several soldiers who have used it as a means of getting a free check from the government. And we have become a softer society in that many do have an entitlement syndrome and wish to seek what others can do for them. We are also over-medicating everyone instead of dealing with the issues.

Was he a little tactless in what he said? Sure, but he's very blunt and always has been.

For never committing a single actual crime.

For speaking his mind.

 

All my close friends are active duty, or fresh out. My little brother also served, he was blown up in 2003. From what I have seen, ptsd is very very real. Its not a sign of weakness, to me its sign of being too strong for too long. No one I know will claim ptsd, but its clear as day for anyone on the outside looking in. This savage guy needs to be air dropped in to iraq for a year so he can show the rest of us how its done. I wonder how good he would feel after a tour.

 

You can be a military veteran, out of the war zone and living a normal life for 40 years or more... and easily obtain a PTSD rating, and subsequent monthly benefit payment. You can get a couple thousand a month after applying for a PTSD rating and all you have to do is go to a counseling program for two weeks.

It's very possible to get a 100 percent disability compensation for PTSD for any (honorably discharged) veteran. Once you're "cured" of course the compensation goes away; therefore it behooves the applicant to claim it's a disorder, long-term with no cure despite treatment.

This isn't to imply that exposure to combat operations does not have a profound and long lasting affect on a person's psyche, but when you have approaching 45% of Iraq war veterans applying for PTSD benefits...I'm sorry not all of that is legitimate. I do receive $130 a month for a 10 percent disability rating involving tinitus., so I am not saying our veterans don't deserve benefits for damage to their health incurred while in the service...what I am saying is, I believe this to be so prevalent that it's almost as though every person who has ever deployed in any capacity is suffering from a dysfunctional depression and stress disorder for the rest of their lives I'm sorry, and no disrespect intended to any veterans out there, but I believe the disorder aspect of this is overdiagnosed. There is a normal processing of a stressful event in which anxiety and nightmares certainly are part of the adaptive process. However this does not mean it remains a debilitating disease for the rest of a person's life...for some perhaps it does; I don't accept that nearly 50% of our Iraq war veterans are, for all intents and purposes, disabled for the rest of their lives while trying to cope with the traumatic events that they experienced while deployed.

 

We ban people for very good reasons; generally because we don't need the violent reactions we have experienced in the past when bigots have visited and spouted their hate speech, knowing full well what they're doing and the reaction they'll get. Like Gert Wilders for example; he knows that once he starts having a go at Muslims that there's a good chance some will respond violently. Then he can say; 'see, I was right, Islam is a religion of violence'.
We don't need fascist scum here or to have to deal with the consequences of their bigotry and, like their extremist counterparts in the Islamic community, they're closely watched if and when they crawl out from under their rocks.

 

Snakestretcher: "We ban people for very good reasons;...."

People saying things with which Snakestretcher disagrees is a "very good reason". Immigrants that do horrible things, no problem.

 

So do you feel we shouldn't spend the money because some might claim those benefits falsely, or that we should not do anything even though some are going to legitimately have the condition?

I would be willing to add a qualifier that you had to have been serving in an active combat area, or been a part of a combat situation(ex. you're a medic normally working behind the front lines and your convoy gets attacked. Just a general example) to get full benefits.

But I don't know how you measure something like that well enough to design a benefit scale for it. I've just always felt that when it came to our veterans, I'd rather give them the benefit of the doubt knowing full well that some of them are going to milk it when they don't actually need it. Of course I'm also of the opinion that medical care and a whole host of other forms of assistance should be made available to combat veterans without question or delay.

 

Roseanne was a hoot and a half as a comedian and then she decided to become primarily a political agitator of a pernicious sort. If she ever wants to return to performing pure humor then I will become a fan of her work again. No mystery there, see? Whenever these actors and comedians become political partisan hacks then I pop them over into that category.

She used to be a really great comedian. Sigh!