How Hillary won the 2014 mid-terms

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  1. sec

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    http://news.yahoo.com/how-hillary-clinton-won-the-2014-midterms-075943434.html

    HYPERLINK has all

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    But here’s the thing: In politics, the easy answer isn’t always the only answer, and the winner of an election isn’t always the one who benefits most. Take a closer look at demography, geography and the road ahead for the parties, and it’s clear that the long-term winner of the 2014 midterms wasn’t the GOP at all. The long-term winner, in fact, wasn’t even on the ballot this year.

    Her name is Hillary Clinton.


    and so it begins. All left sites will now spin how good it is for Hillary. Congratulations to Yahoo for being first out with this spin.

    Next will be far far far leftist sites saying that Sen Warren is needed and that the Democrat party needs to go even further to the left, if that's even possible
     
  2. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is why I can't stand the far left. The GOP beat the hell out of the Dems yesterday and the first page on yahoo is about how "Hillary's got this in the bag."

    I'm a liberal who will not be voting for Hillary.
     
  3. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States. As much as the liberal bias media wants to claim that, it won't happen. She won't even win the primaries.
     
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    Elections are what is wrong with this country.

    We treat it like a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing game.

    It's not.

    It's not about winning and losing, or at least it shouldn't be.

    We (*)(*)(*)(*)ed our own country.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Never let a Political loss go to waste.
    It is formulaic.The New democrats don't run on accomlishment but rather
    constant political peril.Creating things that appear to need fixing just to
    beleaguer Americans and create a climate of turmoil.So they can swoop-in
    and appear to save the day.
    It was a Rush Limbaugh theorem.Manufacture a crisis in order to castigate
    and blame the opposition then have a bigmouth like Obama run around lecturing how
    he'll fix it.Basically involving how to beat up his opposition { the GOP }.
    Obama,being born to be a political boss and or bully.
    It's basically one big political cartoon.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have to admit that it will be fun to watch as Hillary has her peacock feathers
    clipped about every week as if going to Military barber shop.
    She deserves it.She actually thought for a long time that it was owed her.
    That the New democrats shared that mission.To let it be publically known that Hillary
    is Owed the Oval Office.That is how Dimocrats actually think.
     
  7. sec

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    correct

    why the leftist media won't give it a rest for at least a month is amazing.

    The policies of Obama are not working
    He would not try something new
    so, upon seeing that, the people made the change for him

    and the leftist media is now saying that the people are wrong

    Give the GOP 6 full months (July) and see what they can do.
     
  8. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats that honestly believe in Hillary Clinton at this point, are going to get side-swiped by reality when she loses the primaries, giving Republicans an easy walk into the white house.
     
  9. Rainbow Crow

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    I can't see this as anything but hugely bad for Hillary since even if she becomes President, this Republican majority might persist past 2016.
     
  10. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary is not likable and she is not presidential. She is riding off her husband's coattails. It is disgusting how CNN and MSNBC are presuming her the Democratic nominee, let alone the president.
     
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    It's pathetic, actually. It just shows you how bias the media is. I go back to Candy Crowley's "moderation" of the Presidential debate, and I just can't help but wonder why she has a job still with CNN. CNN is about as moderate as Sean Hannity or Rachel Maddow.
     
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    I wouldn't count Hillary out just yet. The more important question is: Who is going to be the Republican candidate..er..loser for 2016?
     
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    I'd like to see her primaried by a Warren / Sanders ticket.
     
  14. Channe

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    They are playing a very dangerous game with moderate Dems like me. The way I see it, they are in bed with far left progressives who represent only 10% of registered Democrats. The majority are moderate, center left.

    But the reaction of Democrats and the Media to what happened in Ferguson, the unwillingness to close off Africa due to Ebola, and their desire to propagate modern feminism (man hating) has turned me off to the Democratic party.
     
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    There's no one on either side right now that can win, at the moment. All Republicans have to do is merely raise Congress' favorability just a tad, and the momentum will be disasterous for Democrats. They have no record to run off! lol. Obama's being distanced by the Dems because of his failures, which means Hildawg has to choose, how will she run? Her horrible record of Sec of State will secure her an easy loss, if that's all she's got. Her career began by being fired from the Watergate scandal investigation for LYING. Once everything actually comes down to election time, it'll be Hillary who gets counted out first. Her past is too bad. Why would someone want that lying 1%er elitist with offshore bank accounts to run? The Democrats hated Romney...

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    Well said, I'm glad you have a mind of your own.
     
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    That sort of thing, plus saying one thing and doing another (a chronic problem with the leadership of both Parties) is why the category of Independent Voter is the fasted growing political category of all. Not officially Democrat or Republican or Libertarian . . . merely Independent and therefore nominally willing to vote for any party or candidate that works for you. It makes things . . . simpler.
     
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    I've lost my faith in Warren as well. We need a Blue Dog Democrat to be nominated. Otherwise, I will either not vote or vote GOP if it's someone like Christie .

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    at heart I'm an independent but call myself a Blue Dog Dem as they lean towards an established political grouping
     
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    The 2014 results virtually assure Hillary Clinton the presidency in 2016.

    After the next two years of the ascendancy of Congressional Republicans (currently accorded 21% approval/69% disapproval by the American public) with the corporate elite's establishment toadies swatting at the TP wacko birds and bible bullies while passing no significant legislation, the meager support for Republican presidential fantacists becomes even more unrealistic.


    The GOP will have sense enough to nominate a governor for '16. Given that their Landslide Willard hasn't had a job since 2006, I'd be making sure Scott Walker stays clean and sober.

    Indulging in bellywhinging about Clinton is useless if you can't come up with a credible opponent, but there an embittered ilk that can't seem to discipline themselves.
     
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    Wow! Usually Yahoo! News does a trifle better job than to allow an actual political screed-style editorial to get presented as an actual news piece. Just for giggles I looked up the fellow's biography -- which reeks of priviledged elitist leftwing upbringing -- and found the following among other things:

    That says it all really. Regular contributor to the Daily Beast and frequently appears on MSNBC and CNN . . . and so he and the concept of 'fair and balanced' have never even met. One might as well have read an article by Hillary Clinton's campaign manager.

    So was this a big win for Hillary? Yes and then again, no. She remains Hillary with the donkey's braying laugh the age ravaged features (which WILL matter to the callow youth vote) and no ability whatsoever to connect to Hispanics. She tried that in the past and totally bounced. She doesn't get them and they don't get her. Roughly half of all self-declared feminists broke for Barack Obama back in 2008 and so she hardly has a death grip on the women's vote either.

    More to the point is that the bitter dead-ender type of fanatical Obama supporter (who still are just about the only true leftwingers still posting on political forums nowadays) will claim to be determined to vote for her, but on election day a very large number of them will just stay home rather than admit that they were wrong about her and wrong about Obama; in that back in 2008 they foolishly voted for Obama during the primaries when they really should have voted for her.

    Their ego and their bitterness will be powerful enough that (secretly) come election day large numbers of them will go PUMA (Party Unity My Ass), which is hugely . . . ironic.
     
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    The answer is Hillery! She will trash OWEbalmer and claim that she was just being a good democrat and doing her best to carry out the OWEblamer agenda-- even though she advised OWEblamer to do things differently. She will try to sound like the Republican candidate and still lose.
     
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    Hillary certainly didn't help any democrats to win.
     
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    Of course they do, in no particular order,
    despite that she wasn't even able to win her party's nomination in 2008 in a modest field when 8 years younger;
    despite that she will not be running against a war/depression President;
    despite that her Nixonesque TV appeal and "nail on chalkboard" charisma are degrading precipitously with every speech and month of age;
    despite that all the various Clinton dirty laundry of the past, together with more recent dirty laundry, will be rehashed twice, once in the primary and then in the election;
    despite that she won't get near the 95% of the black vote that Obama got;
    despite that lots of air got let out of her favorite "war on women" diatribe last night in a sea of gynocentric ads bought for billions and all for naught;
    despite that she is a decamillionaire now and so may end up inheriting Romney's "plutocrat candidate" hat depending on whom the GOP runs;
    despite that she will wear an Obamacare albatross necklace, especially in light of her own past failed foray into socialized medicine;
    despite that she will wear an executive amnesty albatross necklace;
    despite that she will wear a Slick Willy albatross necklace;
    despite that there will be two more glorious years of the libertarian internet exploding leftist resentment/identity based lie narratives between now and then;
    despite her very mediocre tenure as a Senator and Secretary of State;
    despite the extreme left feeling she is too much an insider/sellout, paving the way for a Nader type third party;

    virtually assured... indeed.
     
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    She didn't help any candidates.
    Was LOUSY on the campaign trail.
    Has no policies of her own.
    Arkansas congressional delegation and governor are now Republican.

    On what can she possibly win? Why would they even nominate her? Look at all the promising Republican governors out there now.
     
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    "What difference does it make?"
     
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    Who else do the Democrats have, she has already been anointed.
     

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