Okay folks....we WIN!

So now what....Republicans take the senate and control both houses of congress, we now have the power to direct Americas future and fix the mess. What do you all think the direction will be?

 

with the Tea Party causing problems?

you guys better put up quick, or 2016 will be known as the year of the Democratic Rise.

 

That's what everybody said in 2008, remember that super majority?

You know what happened? Obama took a (*)(*)(*)(*) on the healthcare system and the rest of the dems wiped for him.

Sorry for being crude, it was the only analogy that could properly explain the situation.

 

I'm reluctantly going with "Deal with the countries problems and gain the Presidency." But only because I do think that barring some tremendous series of incredible events as things stand here and now the GOP is almost certain to 'win' the presidency at the end of 2016 since at the end of eight years worth of an unpopular president's time in office the nation almost always hands the job over to the opposite party.

But I think that the GOP will pass bill after bill after bill that Barack Obama will veto. He and the Dem Party leadership will blame the GOP for deliberately passing intolerable bills. The GOP will Blame Obama and the Dem Party leadership for refusing to compromise to move the nation forward. More or less the bulk of the voting public will side with the GOP because studies have confirmed that voters almost always blame the sitting president for most of the troubles that arise during that administration.

That's what I think will happen; well that and Ruth Bader Ginsburg will finally retire from the Supreme Court and then the fun will begin . . .

 

The republicans will continue with the thinking that caused the crash, the recession, and we will continue to go down the tubes.

Since it requires the signature of the president for any of their old ideas to make it into law, they won't do anything but rail against the president, as they have done since 09. And their ratings will continue to be in the basement. By 2016, the nation will be fed up with them enough to play musical chairs again, and not allow a republican to win the oval office and they will lose control of congress again. And once again as in 08, MSM will say the end of the republicans is again with us.

If the repubs take the senate, what difference would that really make? None. It is meaningless.

 

Not likely. Human psychology comes into play. All the GOP has to do is point out that they are passing bill after bill after bill to 'move the nation's economy forward' and to produce 'immigration reform' and that Obstructionist Barack Obama is unfairly killing them with his veto pen because (the implication will be) he really does hate this nation and really is an EVIL communist in Dem Party clothing, or whatever. Enough independent voters will side with the GOP that at least seems to be TRYING and against the obstructionist -- booooooo! -- Obama and Dem Party leadership that people will be ready to give a GOP president a try at the end of 2016.

 

No matter who wins the people lose.

 

Congress can override his vetoes.

 

Tax cuts, lip service about cutting spending while increasing the deficit. Some toothless law about abortion, and a bunch of infighting over immigration, and marriage equality.

 

Ever since 2008, the GOP have made it their goal to keep any law that makes Obama looook good for signing it off his desk. The killed a bill to create jobs for unemployed veterans to avoid getting Obama any points with veterans going into 2012. They will keep it up, aand try to blame any issues on the democrats.

 

We can't do anything. Congress does things. All we can do is vote. Frankly it's a win win rather the republican or democrat wins in 2016. If a republican wins there will be at least two years of republican policy making. If the democrat wins congress will likely gain more republicans.

It seems the country just zigzags between the two parties.

 

They have no choice but to beat each other up. 2016 is right around the corner. Lame duck until then. Expect nothing. Congress will pass various and sundry laws to force the president to veto so the GOP can force Hillary and her opponents to state a position one way or another. Will she support Obama or the GOP Congress? This will be very entertaining.

 

First Off: Congrats On the Win.
That said; why did it not comes as a surprise to see that almost half want the same games as before to continue. Do so and forget the gains you have achieved and forget gaining the Whitehouse, you will lose both. The people backed the GOP because they are sick and tired of the games, insist on playing them and pay the price in two years.

 

The only means the repubs have of moving the economy forward is by tax cuts on the rich, which will reduce revenues and drive up debt. They are a one trick pony, and this trick is just that, a trick. Reducing taxes on the rich will only give them a bit more to invest in cheap labor overseas. Or a bit more to move offshore. There are trillions setting on the sidelines now, and no demand to pull those dollars into increasing production, to supply demand.

What will the rich invest in, in this domestic economy, that will add jobs? Since we no longer make what we consume, except for a few high ticket items, and given that those factories that still use human labor are no longer here, there is nothing the repubs can do with their tax cuts to stimulate this economy. We don't need more McDs, or Walmarts. Neither one are selling products made in America by americans. In short, that dog won't hunt.

No sir, the republicans taking control of the senate will yield nothing, except to show them up as ineffectual in affecting anything. All they will produce is empty rhetoric, and you cannot eat that stuff. The American people were right when they voted them out in 08. But we have short memories, but we will remember why we voted them out. Not that voting the dems in will change anything. But americans being clueless will continue to play musical chairs, doing the same things but expecting different results. But eventually, I hope they wake up and comprehend what the problem really is. They have to suffer more first, and more of us have to suffer. But we will reach critical mass one day.

 

You ASSUME he will veto them all. My guess he will veto the Bills that are nothing more than Partisan spending and cuts and he and the Dems will explain the reasons to the American People and if that is all the Congress sends him then it will be the GOP that will pay the price. Keep in mind that Obama is not running for office again and as for Hillary I doubt he cares one iota if she gets the DNC nomination or not. He may be a lame duck as you say but I remind you he is a lame duck with a Veto Pen that the GOP cannot override, either get something done while you have the chance or lose your gains in two years. Choices are important and the American People will be watching.

 

Significant legislation won't be passed by a Republican congress and a Democrat president. They won't send anything his way that he will sign, not even a budget.

Yes, he is still running for office, because the Democrat party own hims. His job now is to help them get Hillary elected, and win seats back in congress. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

If they do not send a budget to him in the next two years the House and/or Senate will revert back to the Dems and the GOP can forget the Whitehouse. The voters expect the GOP to get to work and perform their jobs, if they do not the backlash in 2016 undue all the gain the GOP has made. Is that what you want?
Sorry but that is not how it is going to play out, but go ahead and believe that is so, your lessons will begin as soon as the new Senate members are sworn in and end two years from today.

 

The best thing that will happen between now and the moment that we are finally rid of Führer Obama, at noon, on January 20, 2017, is that Republicans can keep him from flooding the open, and opening, Federal Judge positions with any more of these rabidly liberal "activist" monsters who have already come close to wrecking the whole precept of majority rule in the United States. Aside from that, it will probably go very much as you suggest, with Congress trying to pass reforms, and with the Führer vetoing them.

Obama has already gotten quite comfortable with his ability rule the nation with his "pen and phone", and he thinks nothing of breaking the law anytime it amuses him to do so. His illegal, stupidly unnecessary action in the whole nauseating Bergdahl "prisoner-swap" is one example, his "recess appointments" are another, his premeditated, deliberate LIES used in getting Obamacare put into law is still another, and his entirely illegal military hostilities against the country of Libya (with which we were at peace) is yet more.... This radical socialist wanna-be dictator is nothing but a delusional criminal, and he doesn't give a damn who knows it, or what American citizens think about it. Republicans will be cursed and castigated by Obama's lap-dog "news" media as "racists" when they try to extract Obama's socialist poison from the lifeblood of the country, and so it will go.

From now until noon, January 20, 2017, NOTHING of any useful good is going to happen in the United States of America. I wish this weren't so, but it will even actually get worse. For a start -- just wait and see what this jive-ass autocrat is going to pull between now and the time the new Republican force of Senators and House Representatives gets sworn in, still two more months from now. You won't believe how much additional damage this creature can do, and there will be NOTHING you can do about it....
. Creatures like these two always know what YOU want better than YOU do....

 

Apologies. I read the poll to ask "What should we do?". Not "What will we do?" The answers I gave are fix the problems and, win the presidency. I hope they will, but am skeptical that is what Republicans will actually end up doing. After 6 long years, the gridlock will finally continue.

 

But they will not be passing legislation that will 'move the nation's economy forward'. If anything they will be peddling the same old same old that got us here in the first place, drive the educational system into the ' not even capable of competing category, and breaking down the middle class into a more easily controlled mass of peasantry. The two party scams actual goal.

Their immigration plan is a joke and nothing more than an exploitation bill that exploits slave labor. No citizenship of course, but please take this work visa and feel free to continue disrupting the economy so that profits can be isolated and maximized for the chosen few. Can you say crony capitalism on steroids? Nice try.

Even if they can send the message that Obama is a socialist/communist, people are going to be less and less enchanted by republicans on the home front just like they did back in 2004, and the senate and probably the house will slide back into the hands of democrats (once again because there are no other viable choices than the corporate owned two party system) no matter who takes the title of head obstructionist/(*)(*)(*)(*) stirrer this go round.

If they deliberately pad bills (and they will) with unnecessary unrelated BS, so Obama actually uses the authority he possesses with his pen, and they continue to play stupid about it, the people will not be happy with either side currently accomplishing nothing, for the the good of the nation as a whole, all over again.

According to the election coverage propaganda of the corporate owned media (and I would take that with a grain of salt as well) the people have once again been drawn to republicans as their saving grace, when in reality they have just, once again (and we are talking the realists here not the extremist nut jobs who are gluttons for punishment), have lost confidence in democrats, and basically have no where to turn but to the corporate sister party of the two party scam, and the cycle of failure will continue.

IOW same (*)(*)(*)(*) different day.

 

Here's a nice flow chart on how the budget process works (PDF). It starts with the president's budget proposals.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/federal-budget-process/budgetprocess.pdf

Congress will have a budget that passes both houses and is sent to the president. But will it contain anything remotely close to the president's wishes? I doubt it.

 

And that is where Compromise comes into play in American Politics, if he is willing to deal with them and they say no it is the GOP that gets the blame and in 24 short months the gains by the GOP will be lost. I know the Cons here will not like hearing that message but the extremists never have been fast learners. Time to put up or shut up for the GOP, get some work done as the voters demanded or be back to where they started as the minority Party.

 

Americans have a short memory. Obama cleaned up the mess Bush left.. and the Democrats get punished for it. Amazing.

 

Obama still has the media. Whatever excuses he makes and whatever talking points put forward by his administration and by the Democrat party that blames the GOP, they'll lap it up as usual.

 

Obama had a majority in both houses. He blew his wad on the ACA. Democrats have been losing ever since.

I wouldn't call Iraq cleaned up. Afghanistan isn't cleaned up either. Do you feel safer? I feel like the next terror attack is right around the corner. Do you realize Obama could actually allow Iraq to become a failed state in the hands of Islamic extremists? Bush wouldn't have allowed it. No American president should allow that after 9/11 and knowing the threat of Islamic terrorism is real, not fictional.