Jon Stewart Perfectly Sums Up The GOP's Closing Arguments

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  1. TomFitz

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    Yes, he summed it up.

    This election was about fear. The right wing noise machine has been fanning the flames of fear for years, and ramped their game up almost to post 9/11 levels.
     
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    I agree, but we need to add a few things; overall the Democrats did not campaign well at all, their message had little substance, voter turnout was a record low, Pres Obama is not that popular, the Tea Party was basically pushed aside, and in general the Republicans are better organized.

    I mean the Democrats should have seized upon the fact these Republicans are going to repeat the same policies that nearly brought this nation to ruin. That and Pres Obama is far from the worst, and with the economy growing, albeit slow, they could have easily reminded voters of Republican obstructionism that hurt the economy.
     
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    What bothers me is that they're not being held accountable for trying to whip the public into a frenzy over their Ebola campaign of terror.

    But this is the new GOP platform: make up a fake scandal to fight... you can always win against a monster you've created.
     
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    I'd ask if you were being serious but the question would be truly rhetorical. I know you are.
    If you don't think the left tries to whip up the fears of cowering liberal arts majors and coffee shop hipsters by hysterically and literally claiming civilization itself will be in jeopardy if republicans take control of the senate then you don't live in the same world as Nancy Pelosi. http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/12/nancy-pelosi-civilization-in-jeopardy-if-gop-takes-senate-video/

    You can't do any better (or worse, actually) than that and in a whipping up voter's fears contest you have just lost big time!
    Add to that democrat fliers that told black voters in the South to vote for them or face the return of the KKK (along with the republicans)
    and it's game, set, match...democrats! http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...tells-blacks-alabama-vote-or-face-h/?page=all
     
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    who would be left to serve in any public capacity if telling a lie or embellishing a resume was an automatic disqualification for service? Anyone?
     
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    The republicans use fear? Really? Let's see.

    Liberals scare people into thinking Republicans hate poor people....hate women...hate clean air...

    They scare voters into thinking republicans will make abortion illegal.

    They scare people into thinking Republicans will start wars....

    Poison your food....
    Want to force religion on you...
    Force creationism on you..
    Take away welfare...
    Take away your healthcare...

    They scare people into thinking whatever they want because young, naive, dependent, desperate people are easily fooled and manipulated. Far more than independent self sufficient tax paying working people.

    What did I miss?

    Oh yeah!! Jon Stewart is news when he states his opinion. People with the same Jobs on FOX are liars when they state theirs? Hypocrites much?
     
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    Watched a SNL rerun last night. They should give Bill Hader both Daily Show and Colbert, now there's a funny guy, and no idea of his politics, imagine he's a lefty.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sF-uURtU4A
     
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    Don't be lazy. This is a debate forum. If Stewart is such an uninformed source, surely someone as knowledgeable as yourself could easily break down his argument piece-by-piece and explain why he is wrong.

    Instead you chose the fallacy of attacking the messenger. Why is that? Surely ripping apart Stewart's sophomoric comments would be an easy task for one such as yourself... wouldn't it?
     
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    Embellishing a resume?

    So, you have no issue with her lying about what happened? She didn't embellish, she told a story, and stuck to it, even put it in her book, and then someone called her out on it, and only then did she admit she lied.

    She lied about Benghazi. But what difference does it make?!?! I can see that quote just put on repeat for 45 seconds on a commercial.

    Hillary could never win. Besides a small percentage of loyal democrats, who would vote for her?
     
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    I am fairly certain you misjudge her popularity.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/
     
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    I'm not so sure. That poll - in it she really hasn't said much yet, and has still yet to officially campaign, much less have any serious mud slung at her. Those poll numbers are based on name recognition, which she has in spades over anyone in the GOP atm, and that's all. The second she starts seriously running, those numbers will start falling faster than Lena Dunham for a prepubescent girl.
     
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    wow... a Rovianesque prognosticator! Did you have Mittens by a landslide on election night too?
     
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    The biggest slaughtering occurred in 1986, Reagan's 6th year, when Republicans lost 8 senate seats, the majority in the senate, and 8 Republican incumbents went down in flames. This all lead to the election of WJ Clinton 6 years later when a Republican coattail rider found he didn't have the stones or the ability for the job.

    But I hope you overreach like you did when Bush43 took the job and people were all fired up about the start of a 100-year Republican Reich. We know what happened at that point, of course. A black, drug using, Marxist, America-hating, Kenyan with a forged birth certificate and a left-handed jump shot won two elections in landslide fashion, beating two of America's whitest stars.
     
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    Not all people with something to say are a "legitimate news source"... Look at Fox. Jon Stewart is a very informative entertainer... Just like the Fox crew.
     
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    Ad hominem post. Antidote? An inconvenient truth for expatriate:

    So: care to actually address the topic of the post, or are cheap shots all you got? Because you kinda shot blanks with that last one, and you got shot down pretty fast as a result.
     
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    Voter fraud, Voter ID and fearmongering
    By Thomas SowellNovember 4, 2014


    One of the biggest voter frauds may be the idea promoted by Attorney General Eric Holder and others that there is no voter fraud, that laws requiring voters to have a photo identification are just attempts to suppress black voting.
    Reporter John Fund has written three books on voter fraud and a recent survey by Old Dominion University indicates that there are more than a million registered voters who are not citizens, and who therefore aren’t legally entitled to vote.
    The most devastating account of voter fraud may be in the book “Injustice” by J. Christian Adams.
    He was a Justice Department attorney, who detailed with inside knowledge the voter frauds known to the Justice Department, and ignored by Attorney General Holder & Co.
    One of these frauds involved sending out absentee ballots to people who had never asked for them.
    Then a political operator would show up — uninvited — the day the ballots arrived and “help” the voter to fill them out. Sometimes the intruders simply took the ballots, filled them out and forged the signatures of the voters.
    These were illegal votes for Democrats, which may well be why Eric Holder sees no evil, hears no evil and speaks no evil.
    As for race-based “voter suppression,” amid all the political hysteria, how many hard facts have you heard? Probably none that supports that claim. Widely available free photo identification cards mean that poverty is no barrier to voting.
    Since blacks and whites both have to show photo ID for everything from cashing checks to getting on a plane, why has requiring a photo ID for voting caused such shrill outcries?
    Unfortunately, this is part of the cynical politics of promoting as much racial polarization and paranoia as possible, in hopes of getting more black voters to turn out to vote for the Democrats.
    Nothing is too gross when promoting racial hysteria in an election year. Veteran Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-Harlem) declared that Republicans “don’t disagree — they hate!” According to Rangel, “Some of them believe that slavery isn’t over and that they won the Civil War!”
    Republicans did win the Civil War. That’s why there is no more slavery.
    It was a Republican president who issued the Emancipation Proclamation. It was a Republican-controlled Congress that voted for the 13th Amendment, outlawing slavery.
    In the 1960s, a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats voted for the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. If we are going to talk about history, let’s at least get the facts right.
    Only an utter ignorance of history, in this era of dumbed-down education, could allow demagogues like Rangel to get away with the absurdities that abound in election year politics.
    Images of lynching and Jim Crow laws that made blacks sit in the back of buses are used against Republicans, even though the “solid South” was solidly controlled by Democrats during that era.
    Bull Connor, who turned police dogs and fire hoses on civil rights demonstrators, was a Democrat.
    So were other Southern segregationists. In those days, you could go hundreds of miles through the Jim Crow South without seeing a single Republican official. That is why political observers called it “the solid South.”
    Perhaps the biggest voter fraud of all is the fraud against black voters, by telling them bogey man stories, in order to try to get them to come out on election day to vote for Democrats.
    The most cynical of these bogey man ploys is Attorney General Holder’s threats of legal action against schools that discipline a “disproportionate” number of black boys.
    Unless you believe that black boys can’t possibly be misbehaving more often than Asian-American girls, what does this political numbers game accomplish?
    It creates another racial grievance, allowing Democrats like Holder to pose as rescuers of blacks from racist dangers.
    The real danger is allowing disruptive students in ghetto schools to destroy the education of other black students — in a world where education is the only hope that most ghetto youngsters have for a better life.
    Sacrificing these young people’s futures, in hopes of gaining some additional black votes today, is as cynical and fraudulent as it gets.


    Democrats make me laugh and at the same time, you make me sick. Lie, cheat, steal votes. The end justifies the means and the American people get screwed, but you don't care as long as you have POWER.
    Who tried to get votes by telling Blacks that if you don't vote for us, your town will have another Ferguson?
    Who tried to get votes by saying all cops are racist?
    Who tried to get votes by saying that Republicans hate women? Women are so much more than their reproductive organs, but Democrats wouldn't know about that.
    Who tried to get votes by mentioning the Koch Brothers as if there is no Tom Steyer?
    Who tried to get votes by saying that Republicans hate Blacks and if you don't vote for us, they will turn welfare off?
     
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    you made prognostications about an event two years in the future. If, in the past, you have been correct in such crystal ball interpretations, good for you. She is still the front runner and she still beats every single GOP contender in head to head polling. She will most likely not undergo a grueling primary battle and will be able to run squarely at the middle from day one, whereas the gaggle of GOP hopefuls will have to run the tea bag strewn gauntlet and that will mean saying a lot of things to a lot of people that will win them that voting bloc, but, when the eventual winner finally survives the primary process, those on the record statements will be a tad distasteful to that same middle that Hillary will have been courting for months. But hey... who the hell knows, right? She may end up deciding that she wants to be a stay at home grandmother and Martin O'Malley may end up being the democrat's white knight in 2016. Way too early to tell, as far as I'm concerned, but you go for it.... pick your winner now, and, when you do, I may make a little gentleman's wager with you.
     
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    Look around the Current Events forum. Many posters here are claiming a Dem victory in 2016, others a GOP one. In what way is what I did unusual for PF.com? Nah, don't answer that, you don't have a good answer so I won't make you give me a bad one.

    How magnanimous of you.

    All true, and all because of name recognition. Hillary had FAR better name recognition than Obama in 2006 - How did that work out for her?

    Except all of this is based upon the fact that Hillary will be able to run from the very comments she's been making over the course of the past twenty-plus years. I'll grant you no one as of now is going to run against Hill for the DNC nom except maybe Joe Biden - something I would pay good money to see happen, not because he has a chance of winning, but mostly for the comedy gold Joe always brings. But just recently, Hill said ""And don't let anybody tell you it's corporations and businesses that create jobs." And while the press has buried that little gem, when she's out there on the stump, there's no way she'll be able to keep from saying many, many more. And that's not counting all the baggage she brings with her. I can't wait to see how she calls herself a feminist when she was a prime enabler for her husband's cheating. She'll actually have to explain Benghazi. And her quitting being Secretary of State. AND her explaining what she did there - Hill doesn't really do so good at this. In any event, a good comparison would have been 1992. The only real competition Bush had was Buchanan, and he was crushed easily. Bill Clinton had to beat a gaggle of Dem nominees - and he won. So your scenario has kind of happened before, and with Hill's husband to boot.

    I've said this elsewhere: I don't think it's impossible for Hill to win, but it's going to be far, FAR harder for her than it was for Obama. It was easy for Bill, he still has a lot of charisma. In many ways, Hill is the anti-Bill, she has NO charisma at all. About the only thing she'll have going for her is the press but can they prop her up the same way they did Obama to Messianic heights? Doubtful, but they'll give it the ol' college try.

    I'll wait and see who the GOP fields before I go that far but I'd be up for it.

    In any event, next time you deign to tell a poster what s/he believes, you might want to use the search function first. Just a helpful hint.
     
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    I'm fairly certain her opponent just needs to run ads of her 'what difference does it make' speech.

    There's no chance she gets elected. If she is the DNC pick, I'm confident in the GOPs chances.

    What really shocks me is, she lied, you know she lied, and you don't care. That's disgusting.
     
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    Wow! Color me surprised.
    "The Huffington Post | By Ed Mazza | Posted: 11/04/2014 5:59 am EST"

    The only thing funnier than Jon Stewart and Bill Maher are the candidates the leftists ran for the 2014 races. Alison Grimes was a knee slapper. "I am not Barack Obama." That got my laughing. Of course, I knew she wasn't Barack Obama. The ears are a give away. And to run a very successful gold-digger as a "woman's candidate" for Governor of Texas is hilarious.

    But, seriously, the leftists are very supportive of women...providing they'r leftists. If they're not leftists then they'll be attacked. The leftists "comedians" are getting chuckles from the haters over Joni Ernst.
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthe...ilarity-between-joni-ernst-and-disney-villain

    According to liberals, if women aren't leftists then they're not really women.
    "Yet, these were Republican women; they’re a horrid subset of the human species beholden to their patriarchal masters according to feminists. Well, it all comes down to abortion–again–and this super-secret conspiracy to make life for American women–and women around the world–miserable (via the Guardian)"
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...t-writer-cant-stand-republican-women-n1916370

    No, according to Democrats, if a woman is a Republican she isn't really a woman. If a black is a Republican then he really isn't black. If a gay person is a Republican then he really isn't gay.
     
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    again, if telling a lie was a disqualification from Federal elected service, the house and senate would be empty bodies, n'est ce pas?
     
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    He is a professional clown, of course he will speak silly nonsense.
     
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    The demrats are all wee wee'd up.
     
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    BWHAHAHAHA!


    The DEMS wont work with the opposing party?


    Need I remind you that within a week of Obama getting elected, the GOP was already holding meetings about how to gridlock congress and make sure that Obama could pass no legislation? I cant believe you would even go there.
     
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    Me? I'd prefer someone who's not a habitual liar in office.

    I get it though she's a democrat, you've got her back.
     

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