The Truly Frightening Thing a Texas Teacher Allegedly Told One Mother

Maybe they cannot be bothered the way you didn't bother to post what the actual thing that is "truly frightening" is.

 

Then why did you blather on about the teacher being able to discuss what they wanted, which is totally unrelated to this thread. There is a thread about that and a college professor.

 

And why in the world are you bringing up creationism and intelligent design. It has nothing to do with this thread. The first mention of it was by leekohler2, the second mention of it was the above. No conservative brought it up.

 

So, somehow conservatives are the cause of a public education system running amok with liberalism? Right.

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Two more...... So what?

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Like with you?

 

Just like you deny everything that contradicts yours?

 

And I wanted to make sure it didn't. If you read my post, you'd have understood that.

 

Correct That was my error. This one is about people whining about what a teacher said and should have been taken care of at the local level this is not an example of anything have seen going on in schools here in Dallas, oh except for the Highland Park High School students complaining that Conservatives are trying to limit what the teacher can have them read for class, but that would be about another group of people trying to determine what children are taught except the shoe would be on the other foot then and we do not want to discuss that here. Have a problem with a teacher, take it up with the local school board and resolve it, it is not a National issue, no matter how much some want it to be so.

 

Your saying that does not make it so, or don't you grasp that fact. I see many problems with the education system, you just see it as a Lib verses Con issue and hence it will never be fixed.

 

I do agree that this is a local issue, but why bring up the rest of this garbage--the other class, and the Highland Park High, etc. Those belong in separate threads.

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Of course I read your post. And I hoped that the whole ID/creationism stuff would die off, as it was unrelated to the subject of the thread. Then CPI wanted in. I guess you realized that the conservatives are basically right in this case--that it's wrong to tell parents that they shouldn't help with homework, so you wanted to bring in an argument you could win. If you wanted to make sure ID/creationism didn't come up, then why bring it up? Sounds like a case of pot-stirring to me. There was no need to bring it up at all, except for trying to start an unrelated mini-argument. Start a new thread if you want to bring other stuff up.

The above sounds like the old psychology trick, "try to think of everything but white bears"

 

I specifically stated that I did not want to get into that kind of conversation. You can try to make it something else if you want, and it looks to me like you are.

So same to you, start your own thread. I still did not get an answer to the question I asked in that post either. Still waiting.

 

The question was answered:

 

Not really. I say that because what people are attempting to say here is that this is a result of Liberals somehow messing up the education system, my point is just as many Conservatives are involved in the education system as are Liberals, one cannot honestly say it is all the fault of one group while ignore the fact that two groups are involved. Maybe one of these days the Cons and Libs will stop pointing fingers at each other for long enough to actually address the dismal state of our Education system, it is a total disgrace that this Nation has so many children graduating from High School with barely a working knowledge of Math, English and Science. But then again from how I see everyone acting in Washington and around the Nation maybe we are all doomed as a Nation and we may already be too late to save anything.

 

Texas schools are really missed up, they keep thinking it's their children and they have to teach them gods ways and this and that, no your just a teacher, teach them, do try to replace their parents

 

Why would anyone be surprised that a teacher would tell a student to only listen to teachers instead of parents?? The State of Texas Board of Education just approved a text book that's full of inaccuracies and falsehoods. I would advise anyone in Texas to homeschool their children.

 

Our education system, while far from perfect, does pretty well for kids who want to learn. It is horrible for kids who don't want to learn. The real problem is that we have this idea that all kids should go to college. This dilutes the college bound curriculum for those really going to college, and it just frustrates those who shouldn't be in college. There is no reason for a plumber to know about iambic pentameter, for example.

Liberals are in control of many aspects of the education system, and to be honest, teachers are for the most part, just a bit more liberal than their local area. (my observation based on 8 yrs of teaching, and 7 years as a school administrator's husband). Liberals control the colleges of education, and colleges in general, with the exception of a few institutions. Conservatives are in control of other things. The problem is that we have decided that education should be governed at federal/state levels. It would be better off functioning at the local level, without having to worry about state and federal mandates. Government works best the closer it is to the people.

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Teachers shouldn't be trying to replace the parents, they should be assisting the parents.

 

Locally, the only school that says things like that is Pensacola Christian Academy. It is part of a fundamentalist cult (they created the abeka curriculum). They require their students to not talk about certain subjects with their parents. That's the same feel I get with the teacher in the OP, albeit I think politically they are 180 degrees apart. (Pensacola Christian College is associated with Pensacola Christian Academy. PCC believes that Bob Jones University is too liberal)

 

And vice versa.

 

And I think by wanting to help with homework, the parent was trying to help the teacher.

 

No, it was not. I asked for specifics, and that was not specific.

 

It was pretty specific for the forum involved. He wanted math, science, reading, writing, speaking and history taught.

 

Perhaps, but since this thread breaks the rules for thread creation, many people here probably don't even know what the real topic is.

I also suspect that given the source, this whole story is pure BS, which makes this whole conversation pontless anyway.

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And who doesn't? Seriously? That's pretty general.

 

I assume you are the first?

 

There are millions of teachers in this country. No doubt some of them are twits.

That said, is there any evidence that this is actually true, and has been accurately described by the mother? Is there any evidence that, if true, this teacher is anything but an isolated weirdo?

 

Yes, it's a horrid site. It doesn't scroll smoothly. I tried to put the article on a friend's facebook page and their form for doing so was so Long that I could not even see the "share" button. And - there is no way to contact them to tell them about it. They give email addresses for their contributors.

If the story is true, we the people, have another big problem. I'd have lost it with that teacher.

 

You're the one who tried to shift it to a conservative vs liberal issue. I just called you out for it..